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Author Topic: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée  (Read 1578103 times)

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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7515 on: December 08, 2015, 09:30:16 pm »

So we can't keep him from being elected but we can impeach him when he is elected.

And then we get to make a nice joke about "You're fired!"

At least, so far.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7516 on: December 08, 2015, 09:48:18 pm »

Wait, it's not even legit? Got my hopes up that something awesome was happening

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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7517 on: December 08, 2015, 10:03:35 pm »

What? You'd it to be a requirement that someone find a President to be a good choice for President before they can be President?
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7518 on: December 08, 2015, 10:04:21 pm »

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Oh, that's by and large true, yes. Never actually been done on those grounds, so far as I can recall, but it'd probably be fair dos for an attempt. Just wouldn't prevent the hypothetical initial election.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7519 on: December 08, 2015, 10:04:34 pm »

Wait, it's not even legit? Got my hopes up that something awesome was happening

Legally and before he actually becomes elected, no. What Flying Dice said is the closest one gets to legal matters here when saying he is disqualified because he (appears) to not intend to follow the constitution when he becomes president.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7520 on: December 08, 2015, 10:05:21 pm »

Yo Dawg, I hear you like your presidents to swear oaths of being presidents!

So, we put a presidential oath in your presidential election process, you can have a presidential president while you have a president!
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7521 on: December 08, 2015, 10:08:21 pm »

Can we have a precedent for our presidential president setting a precedent about being a precedent setting presidential president?
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7522 on: December 08, 2015, 10:10:14 pm »

The possibility may presently present itself, given prudence on the part of the presidential polity.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7523 on: December 08, 2015, 10:11:00 pm »

Wait, it's not even legit? Got my hopes up that something awesome was happening
Legally and before he actually becomes elected, no. What Flying Dice said is the closest one gets to legal matters here when saying he is disqualified because he (appears) to not intend to follow the constitution when he becomes president.
Is this any different from the peeps saying Obama hasn't followed the constitution?

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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7524 on: December 08, 2015, 10:16:40 pm »

"Like a bad neighbor, D. Trump don't care! (about the constitution."
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7525 on: December 08, 2015, 10:17:40 pm »

Wait, it's not even legit? Got my hopes up that something awesome was happening
Legally and before he actually becomes elected, no. What Flying Dice said is the closest one gets to legal matters here when saying he is disqualified because he (appears) to not intend to follow the constitution when he becomes president.
Is this any different from the peeps saying Obama hasn't followed the constitution?

Not really since those people were complaining about Obama using executive powers to bypass congress, violating one of the amendments is another level entirely.

Well, people are arguing over Obama with technicalities; Trump has promised to violate the Constitution with a pool cue. In full.

Exactly. Obama hasn't outright violated the constitution, I don't know if Trump has actually said he'll violate the constitution with a pool cue in full, but his rhetoric does violate the constitution.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7526 on: December 08, 2015, 10:27:18 pm »

Well, people are arguing over Obama with technicalities; Trump has promised to violate the Constitution with a pool cue. In full.
Not really since those people were complaining about Obama using executive powers to bypass congress, violating one of the amendments is another level entirely.
Exactly. Obama hasn't outright violated the constitution, I don't know if Trump has actually said he'll violate the constitution with a pool cue in full, but his rhetoric does violate the constitution.
They don't say their gripes are technicalities they say outright violations

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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7527 on: December 08, 2015, 11:00:53 pm »

He used executive action to bypass the fact that Congress was doing fuckall to deal with a serious situation. He didn't make anything law, but cleaned up a situation until Congress got its shit together. Their response, of course, was "how could you! You bypassed our ability to screw you over by going around and putting the onus on us! That's against the constitution!" rather than actually deal with the problem now put squarely on their plate.

As for whether it actually violates the Constitution, I doubt it.

He's ordered American citizens assassinated without trial on legal justification that's never been shown to anyone.

Not that I disagree with it, but there's certainly arguments that that's against more than a few items.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7528 on: December 08, 2015, 11:02:42 pm »

He what now?
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7529 on: December 08, 2015, 11:05:20 pm »

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