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Author Topic: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée  (Read 1577822 times)

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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7500 on: December 08, 2015, 08:17:19 pm »

The one named Boris Johnson http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-35037007 , and does London seriously have two mayors or something?
The UK London.
We have the Lord Mayor and the Mayor, the Lord Mayor being mayor of the City of London and the Mayor being the mayor of London which is all of London around the City of London. The City of London and Westminster used to be two rival cities, but then they fused and just became one big London, but the City of London retained its rights in the Magna Carta (hence why the government is in Westminster, not the City of London). Oh yeah and 50 years ago the Westminster borough was awarded city status again, so London is technically 3 cities. Boris is Mayor of Greater London and is generally the more important one when it comes to politics, so his putdown is of greater significance. Boris is also known here for being absolutely hilarious.

That guys hair looks even more fake than Trumps hair.

The one named Boris Johnson http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-35037007 , and does London seriously have two mayors or something?
The UK London.
We have the Lord Mayor and the Mayor, the Lord Mayor being mayor of the City of London and the Mayor being the mayor of London which is all of London around the City of London. The City of London and Westminster used to be two rival cities, but then they fused and just became one big London, but the City of London retained its rights in the Magna Carta (hence why the government is in Westminster, not the City of London). Oh yeah and 50 years ago the Westminster borough was awarded city status again, so London is technically 3 cities. Boris is Mayor of Greater London and is generally the more important one when it comes to politics, so his putdown is of greater significance. Boris is also known here for being absolutely hilarious.
I... I... What?  Why?

Complex history, go figure. Also, the Magna Carta is 800 years old, so, yeah.

We don't need a discussion of medieval British history in the AmeriPol thread anyway.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7501 on: December 08, 2015, 08:19:25 pm »

Well it's kind of tangentially relevant but that was more of a "Seriously?"
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7502 on: December 08, 2015, 08:23:22 pm »

To bring it back on rails, all the various Londons think Trump's full of shit basically

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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7503 on: December 08, 2015, 08:25:46 pm »

I wish that his supporters thought he was.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7504 on: December 08, 2015, 08:48:02 pm »

Look at this guy! This Boris? What is that, a Russian name is mayor of London? Look at this guy! His hair is a joke! And that face! Look at that face. I'll tell you, frankly, I'd put a wall around that face.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7505 on: December 08, 2015, 08:51:49 pm »

The City of London's Roman walls are well-maintained so Boris Johnson cannot find his way in

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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7506 on: December 08, 2015, 08:59:22 pm »

(Modified state farm jingle...)


Like a bad neighbor, D. Trump don't care!!
(I call it the "State Harm" jingle.)
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7508 on: December 08, 2015, 09:05:01 pm »

Yes, it seems to be.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7509 on: December 08, 2015, 09:08:34 pm »

Not in any legal sense, from what I've picked up so far. The explicit statement was that what he said violated the president's oath in both word and spirit (youdon'tsay.png), which... isn't enough to actually get you barred, so far as I'm aware. Also DT (several of the republican candidates, really, and probably some of the democratic ones, too) has been shitting all over that for a while now.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7510 on: December 08, 2015, 09:14:18 pm »

Well, would it be a form of contract?
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7511 on: December 08, 2015, 09:16:19 pm »

It's not a legal thing, they're just saying (and they're not really wrong) that Trump is a shithead that isn't even remotely qualified to hold the position. They've been saying that for some time, in fact, they're just not being as quiet and diplomatic about it anymore. I suppose if he acted in that direction while he was already in office it could become a problem but that's a different question entirely.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7512 on: December 08, 2015, 09:21:26 pm »

Again,

"Like a bad neighbor, D. Trump don't care! (about oaths of office)"

Really, the State Harm jingle applies to him so very well, it really should be his theme music.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7513 on: December 08, 2015, 09:23:30 pm »

Well, would it be a form of contract?
Doubt it's a legally binding oath (i.e. a contract). Near as I can tell with some cursory googling, if nothing else a violation of the presidential oath has not actually ever been attempted to be persecuted. Not entirely sure of that, but it follows fairly well. Most oaths of office and similar such things aren't. There may be paperwork or duty descriptions or whatnot that does constitute a contract, but the oaths themselves are often just frippery, insofar as the legal aspect is concerned.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7514 on: December 08, 2015, 09:27:37 pm »

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It's reasonable to interpret that to mean that a clear violation of the oath of office would likely be grounds for impeachment, though; it's a constitutional requirement that the president take the oath with the implication that they adhere to it in good faith. A president acting unconstitutionally would indicate that they didn't take the oath in good faith and are thus ineligible to hold the office.
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