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Author Topic: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée  (Read 1545206 times)

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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7470 on: December 08, 2015, 02:11:02 pm »

Pfft, doesn't sound very reassuring, then again (and you guys may have figured it out by now), I'm not a believer and would probably consider myself atheist.

Also, I was being sarcastic, maybe I need to boldify the sarcastic tags.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7472 on: December 08, 2015, 02:43:04 pm »

Also, I was being sarcastic, maybe I need to boldify the sarcastic tags.
i might've just misinterpreted them, in which case my bad

i thought the sarcasm was more "this is how absurd the things he's saying are" and less "this is how absurdly the things he's saying can be misinterpreted"
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7473 on: December 08, 2015, 02:47:40 pm »

I wonder how many "So you think God is on the side of the terrorists? Traitor." tweets Rubio has gotten since saying that.

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But Cruz, who passes for an intellectual in the Republican field, used his words thoughtfully. “If I am elected president,” he said, “I will direct the Department of Defense to destroy ISIS.”

I guess Cruz thinks if we really wanted to beat ISIS we could have done it in 21 days, like the Iraq War. (Forgetting all the land mines ISIS has planted, and what happens after "mission accomplished")

That or he wants to carpet bomb (or nuke) them, killing everyone remaining in the cities they're occupying, which would enrage a ton of people across the middle east (and the rest of the world) ...
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7474 on: December 08, 2015, 02:57:12 pm »

That or he wants to carpet bomb (or nuke) them, killing everyone remaining in the cities they're occupying, which would enrage a ton of people across the middle east (and the rest of the world) ...

Why do you speculate that, even sarcastically?
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« Reply #7475 on: December 08, 2015, 03:03:34 pm »

Cruz might not actually intend to use nukes on ISIS and was just pandering to those that think it's a sound strategy, but the rhetoric is still a bit concerning.

Also, any general or advisor that thinks carpet bombing is a viable strategy in an era of precision bombing should be fired. :P

That or he wants to carpet bomb (or nuke) them, killing everyone remaining in the cities they're occupying, which would enrage a ton of people across the middle east (and the rest of the world) ...

Why do you speculate that, even sarcastically?

Because he's (as in Cruz) said it before?

With the rhetoric being thrown around, it's hard to tell what's an actual plan they intend to carry out vs chestbeating rhetoric.
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« Reply #7476 on: December 08, 2015, 03:06:39 pm »

Carpet bombing doesn't have a great track record. Nixon's Cambodian bombing campaign can attest to that. It basically drove 100,000's of people to the Khmer Rouge.

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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7477 on: December 08, 2015, 03:08:08 pm »

Yeah, presumably speculating such just because it's something of a common line of rhetoric amongst conservatives (in particular, anyway). Many of the republican et al politicians are on record saying something along such lines. Presumably cruz has said it fairly explicitly, I'unno. Haven't paid much attention to the guy.

And hey, carpet bombing is still a perfectly viable strategy if you're trying to kill civilians and destroy infrastructure, and you better believe there's support for that in the US if the target's the middle east. Thankfully not a majority, but still.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7478 on: December 08, 2015, 03:10:04 pm »

He said it really recently, actually.
“If I am elected president, we will utterly destroy ISIS," the Texas senator and Republican presidential candidate told reporters. "We won’t weaken them. We won’t degrade them. We will utterly destroy them. We will carpet bomb them into oblivion. We will  arm the Kurds. We will do everything necessary so that every militant on the face of the earth will know if you go and join ISIS, if you wage jihad and declare war on America, you are signing your death warrant.”

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According to these guys, he said:
We will utterly destroy ISIS. We will carpet bomb them into oblivion. I don’t know if sand can glow in the dark, but we’re going to find out. And we are going to make abundantly clear to any militant on the face of the planet, if you wage jihad against the United States of America and try to murder innocent Americans, you are signing your death warrant.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7479 on: December 08, 2015, 03:27:08 pm »

Didn't we just go through this whole line of discussion like 4-5 pages ago?  ???
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7480 on: December 08, 2015, 03:30:03 pm »

Th'bombing quote definitely came up fairly recently, at least.

E: In other news, Graham apparently just tore into Trump with a bit of a vengeance. I have to admit, calling him "ISIL man of the year" is a pretty good one.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7481 on: December 08, 2015, 03:39:13 pm »

That or he wants to carpet bomb (or nuke) them, killing everyone remaining in the cities they're occupying, which would enrage a ton of people across the middle east (and the rest of the world) ...

Why do you speculate that, even sarcastically?

"Speculate"?

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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7482 on: December 08, 2015, 03:44:32 pm »

Trump's Plan: Enegerize the idiot voter in order to get them in the polling place. He knows that he can't possibly win, but he can shift the electorate so that republicans in general win big in the congress.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #7483 on: December 08, 2015, 03:52:54 pm »

Trump's Plan: Enegerize the idiot voter in order to get them in the polling place. He knows that he can't possibly win, but he can shift the electorate so that republicans in general win big in the congress.
honestly that seems even less plausible than the deep cover liberal theory somehow
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