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Author Topic: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée  (Read 1549445 times)

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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #6015 on: November 05, 2015, 04:35:42 pm »

Newly elected Kentucky governor Matt Bevin has confirmed that he will end the medicaid expansion here. This program is so successful I've heard it has received international attention. Hey, at least we'll still be #1 at chicken frying.

This is why the government meddling in healthcare doesn't work. Even when it's a huge success, someone will disagree with it on principle and shut it down.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #6016 on: November 05, 2015, 04:37:35 pm »

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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #6017 on: November 05, 2015, 04:39:21 pm »

Newly elected Kentucky governor Matt Bevin has confirmed that he will end the medicaid expansion here. This program is so successful I've heard it has received international attention. Hey, at least we'll still be #1 at chicken frying.

This is why the government meddling in healthcare doesn't work. Even when it's a huge success, someone will disagree with it on principle and shut it down.

What can I say, the elderly folks who elected him will get exactly what he promised.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #6018 on: November 05, 2015, 04:42:47 pm »

Taking healthcare away from young poor people for no monetary savings?  Yeah, pretty much exactly what they want.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #6019 on: November 05, 2015, 04:49:36 pm »

Right, because only poor young kids benefit from medicaid.
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« Reply #6020 on: November 05, 2015, 04:55:10 pm »

I thought we were talking about the expansion.  I certainly hope he wasn't planning on cancelling the whole program.
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« Reply #6021 on: November 05, 2015, 04:56:24 pm »

Don't worry, they might not live long enough to parse the changes anyways.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #6022 on: November 05, 2015, 05:04:55 pm »

I thought we were talking about the expansion.  I certainly hope he wasn't planning on cancelling the whole program.
I wouldn't put it past the stupid political enough to get office, especially considering I was in that state for a year. They just have to be convinced its a smart idea.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #6023 on: November 05, 2015, 05:25:28 pm »

Newly elected Kentucky governor Matt Bevin has confirmed that he will end the medicaid expansion here. This program is so successful I've heard it has received international attention. Hey, at least we'll still be #1 at chicken frying.

This is why the government meddling in healthcare doesn't work. Even when it's a huge success, someone will disagree with it on principle and shut it down.

What can I say, the elderly folks who elected him will get exactly what he promised.

Like I said, I wish they would. But we've got the Attorney General and Secretary of State as well as control of the House of Representatives in the General Assembly. What's actually going to happen will be four years of gridlock while that damnyankee tries to fuck us and the state Dems try to stop him.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #6024 on: November 05, 2015, 05:55:15 pm »

Sometimes I think they actively want to depopulate the southern states to reduce the amount of poor / black people. Rolling back federal assistance achieves that aim.

I've also heard that if you tell southerners that a law is applied in a discriminatory manner (unfairly targets blacks) then they actually like the law more than before. I think this is closely tied to the "Just World Fallacy", which you can read about and is extremely irrational, but a widespread phenomena. In that, people rationalize that those suffering bad effects must have deserved it. It is probably a psychological self-defence mechanism, because then you can rationalize that "it can't happen to me". It is also quite close to the way conservatives frame issues, and the opposite of how liberals do.

So, in other words, pointing out how outcomes are "unfair" plays to liberals worldview but plays against conservatives worldview. And you have to be very aware of how you frame issues. One of the Kentucky videos showed a poor black woman who can't get medical insurance, and how unfair and illogical it is. But this only reinforces the conservative / Just World belief system. If you want to break through that you need to frame the issue completely differently. Find a black woman who is a devout christian but can't get medical insurance. That would focus on the points of commonality between the conservatives and the person in the video. Because if it can happen to one christian it can happen to you, too.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #6025 on: November 05, 2015, 06:00:46 pm »

Oh, yeah. I've heard so much of the "welfare queens" line out of otherwise intelligent, respectable people that you wouldn't believe it.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #6026 on: November 05, 2015, 06:04:38 pm »

Newly elected Kentucky governor Matt Bevin has confirmed that he will end the medicaid expansion here. This program is so successful I've heard it has received international attention. Hey, at least we'll still be #1 at chicken frying.

This is why the government meddling in healthcare doesn't work. Even when it's a huge success, someone will disagree with it on principle and shut it down.
Wow...even without knowing his politics, he just has one of those faces you want to punch. He looks like he should be selling used cars while trying to hit on your wife.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #6027 on: November 05, 2015, 06:06:31 pm »

It should also be noted for the three of you who don't watch Last Week Tonight that Bevin directly lied about wanting to remove the medicaid expansion at least once.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #6028 on: November 05, 2015, 06:09:56 pm »

Newly elected Kentucky governor Matt Bevin has confirmed that he will end the medicaid expansion here. This program is so successful I've heard it has received international attention. Hey, at least we'll still be #1 at chicken frying.

This is why the government meddling in healthcare doesn't work. Even when it's a huge success, someone will disagree with it on principle and shut it down.
Wow...even without knowing his politics, he just has one of those faces you want to punch. He looks like he should be selling used cars while trying to hit on your wife.
That's not far off.

http://www.wave3.com/story/29363433/bevin-late-several-times-on-property-taxes-documents-show

He failed to ensure his bell factory in Connecticut; it burned to the ground just after he finished renovations, and then he went and cried to the state until they gave him a grant to cover the cost of rebuilding.

He's fucking scum, a no-good carpetbagger who came here because he figured that all he had to do was use the code-words "conservative family values" and all the racists, homophobes, and anti-choicers would turn out in droves.
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Re: American Election Megathread- Voting Trump/Wallace in '168
« Reply #6029 on: November 05, 2015, 06:10:58 pm »

It should also be noted for the three of you who don't watch Last Week Tonight that Bevin directly lied about wanting to remove the medicaid expansion at least once.
Yeah, me and the GF watched that the other night, shortly before checking the elections results.

Dick Black won as well, and that nobody trucker who won the Dem nomination in Mississippi lost 68-31, which is honestly better than I expected.

I'm not feeling too good, considering that nationally the overall elections results in the off-year were pretty conservative. Doesn't bode well for next year.
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