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[RedKing]

Also, it's funny how people are going for Biden, yet he isn't actually running.

That was true of half the GOP candidates too. Bush, Walker, Trump, etc.

[smjjames]

Also, it's funny how people are going for Biden, yet he isn't actually running.

That was true of half the GOP candidates too. Bush, Walker, Trump, etc.

Those guys were campaigning before that, Biden isn't really even doing that.

[mainiac]

they're profoundly uncomfortable with Clinton as a candidate,

[citation needed]

[Neonivek]

PLEASE tell me the President Donald Trump is an exaggeration and he doesn't have an honest chance of getting elected.

[mainiac]

PLEASE tell me the President Donald Trump is an exaggeration and he doesn't have an honest chance of getting elected.

Hmm... I wonder what his dishonest chances are?

[Mechatronic]

A lot higher than his honest ones.

[RedKing]

they're profoundly uncomfortable with Clinton as a candidate,

[citation needed]

Perhaps most telling is how poorly she scores when all voters in these three key states are asked about her empathy, honesty and temperament.
In Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania she averages a negative 37–55 percent favorability.

Clinton gets a negative 37–55 percent favorability rating and voters say 64–32 percent she is not honest and trustworthy.  Biden gets a split 44–43 percent favorability rating and voters say 52–40 percent he is honest and trustworthy.

58. Would you say that
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Hillary Clinton cares about the needs and problems of people
like you or not?
                         FL     OH     PA
Yes                   42%   43%  43%
No                    55      52     53
DK/NA                3        5       4

Now, I wish the Quinnipiac poll had crosstabs to indicate what chunk of those with negative favorability and negatives on the "cares" and "trustworthy" questions split for Biden and which split for Sanders.


Look, I get it -- you've already ordered like 500 Clinton '16 t-shirts and the Hillary Clinton cuddle pillow, and you'll be damned if some unwashed socialist like Sanders or some biker-groping putz like Biden is going to screw this up for you.

But you have to concede that Hillary is genuinely distrusted by a number of people who are card-carrying Democrats, by even more people who are independents, and is considered the Antichrist in a pantsuit by most Republicans, and has been since the 1990's.


It's a long way from a collapse, but her aggregate poll numbers have dropped 6 points in 3 days. The last couple of national polls have her lead on Sanders under 20 points, after months of holding a 40-60 point lead. Some of it could be history remembering itself -- people who thought her invincible are remembering her stalling out in 2008 (admittedly much further into the process than now) and might be thinking "Holy shit, maybe it's gonna happen again and support for Sanders/Biden/whoever actually could count for something!"

Maybe she's the Peyton Manning of Presidential primaries. Who knows? All I know is that getting bitchy and whistling past the graveyard any time someone brings up the subject isn't going to sway anybody into thinking you're right.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

What I wonder is how close the gap with Sanders has to be for resignedly Hillary-aligned people to dare to believe.

[smjjames]

Biden should get his butt into the race, what with the support that he does have.

Also, Hillary making jokes about the email scandal isn't really helping her IMO.

[Sheb]

The guy who makes the Dilbert comics apparently got a Trump boner and post stuff about him all the time. Recently, he wrote this gem:

Code: [Select]

Bonus Thought 1: When Donald "Nobody builds walls better than me" Trump stuck an anchor in the immigration problem by calling the Mexican immigrants rapists, he also established himself as the only Republican who is talking about violence to women. Name the other Republican candidate who is out front on a gender issue. You can’t.

[Sergarr]

Guess which state has (hypothetically) more people voting Trump than Clinton?

[WealthyRadish]

If an explosion at a major fluoride depot results in commie dust being spread across the US like the debris from Chernobyl over Europe, and as a result Bernie miraculously nabs the nomination, I might actually register to vote this year. Otherwise, my money's on us getting Obama2.0, with all the promise of a week-old bagel dipped in warm water (but hey, I've eaten worse).

It was a bit surreal to hear my mother ask me the other day if Trump's actually running for president. What a time to be alive. PTW, I guess.

[FearfulJesuit]

I'm getting...tempted to reregister as a Republican to vote for Donald Trump in the primary. The Dem primary is probably in the bag and the only Republican I would be interested in nonironically is Pataki, who was a dead man walking from day one.

[smjjames]

The guy who makes the Dilbert comics apparently got a Trump boner and post stuff about him all the time. Recently, he wrote this gem:

Code: [Select]

Bonus Thought 1: When Donald "Nobody builds walls better than me" Trump stuck an anchor in the immigration problem by calling the Mexican immigrants rapists, he also established himself as the only Republican who is talking about violence to women. Name the other Republican candidate who is out front on a gender issue. You can’t.

At one point people have to realize that he's just saying the same crap that half of the people on any random /pol/ board would say. He's literally just the vocalization of whatever conservative thing is trending on Twitter.

And you've gotta wonder why so many republican women like him despite badmouthing women, the Rosie O'Donnell feud aside.

[RedKing]

FJ....dat avatar....



It would be fascinating to see if Trump could survive long enough to run in NC and carry the state. I think we have a huge untapped reservoir of crazy here. (in the primary).