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Author Topic: Murrican Politics Megathread 2016: There Will Be Hell Toupée  (Read 1586690 times)

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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #405 on: February 12, 2015, 03:52:45 pm »

SG, it may be of some interest to you to read up on the history of the German Pirate Party - they were hyped up, they had important issues nobody else adressed, they had a good image, but by insisting on leaderlessness and stuff like that they were destroyed by infighting and general ineffectiveness.
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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #406 on: February 14, 2015, 02:47:31 pm »

I haven't disappeared! My computer's just been out since Tuesday with a broken screen casing, and will probably be gone until at least next weekend.

I'm going to add Scott Walker to the list of candidates in the OP, since he seems to have some visibility. He's also probably up there with Bush in the slim, but important, "could actually win a presidential election" faction of Republican candidates: he's the two-term president of a state that hasn't gone red on the presidential level since Reagan's landslide in 1984, and was the only governor in American history who survived a recall vote. He's also got a reputation for getting stuff done, even if that means cutting public-sector pensions.

Also, Mitch McConnell is in hot water. It's gonna be a loooooong two years in the Senate.
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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #407 on: February 14, 2015, 03:12:50 pm »

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« Reply #408 on: February 14, 2015, 07:56:05 pm »

Kudos to him for trying though. Here's hoping he doesn't cave in.

Sounds like the usual republican sheneinighans with trying to nuke everything Obama.
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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #409 on: February 14, 2015, 08:02:36 pm »

If only we could convince them to do the same, but with the NSA's funding...
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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #410 on: February 14, 2015, 11:08:22 pm »

Hell, gutting the DHS would be pretty sweet.
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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #411 on: February 14, 2015, 11:12:32 pm »

Obama: "I vow to raise the NSA's funding by 20% before the end of my term."
GOP: "Obama's going all totalitarian on us! Cut the NSA's funding in half!"
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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #412 on: February 15, 2015, 07:58:41 pm »

Obama: "I vow to raise the NSA's funding by 20% before the end of my term."
GOP: "Obama's going all totalitarian on us! Cut the NSA's funding in half!"

... Why doesn't he do this?
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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #413 on: February 15, 2015, 08:04:34 pm »

Obama: "I vow to raise the NSA's funding by 20% before the end of my term."
GOP: "Obama's going all totalitarian on us! Cut the NSA's funding in half!"

... Why doesn't he do this?

Because he actually supports those institutions?
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« Reply #414 on: February 15, 2015, 08:13:24 pm »

Well, anything he supports gets automatic opposition from Republicans, as I've noticed.
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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #415 on: February 15, 2015, 09:17:44 pm »

Right, and he knows this.
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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #416 on: February 16, 2015, 01:42:06 am »

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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #417 on: February 16, 2015, 08:16:28 am »

It's not that far-fetched: When Obama denounced the holocaust on Holocaust Rememberance Day as "senseless violence", Conservatives piped up that NAZI's weren't "senseless" crazy zealots, and in fact NAZI ideology was totally a sensible set of beliefs. In other words Obama called the holocaust insane and pointless, so Conservatives have to point out how it actually makes complete sense.

Given examples like that, it does make it sound like Conservatives just have to be Opposite Day to whatever comes out of Obama's mouth.

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« Reply #418 on: February 16, 2015, 08:33:49 am »

Given examples like that, it does make it sound like Conservatives just have to be Opposite Day to whatever comes out of Obama's mouth.

I'm pretty certain both sides do that. They certainly do it in England.

I don't think political parties are any different anymore. It feels like we're in a high class shell game and we keep trying to find the political party that will actually help and do what they claim but all their words are empty. Everything's a distraction from the fact that all the parties serve the same people with the exact same purpose. It's just the words they say are different.
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Re: Bay12 2016 Election Megathread- It Is Terrifying
« Reply #419 on: February 16, 2015, 10:10:13 am »

Hell, gutting the DHS would be pretty sweet.
That's not even on the table. The part of the DHS they hate is self-funded. And the rest of it is in the same boat as government shutdown: "Everyone important works without pay, everyone else goes home for a bit". Since most of it is considered "essential" because most of it's agencies are along the lines of FEMA and the Secret Service, any shutdown won't have many public effects.
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