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[BigD145]

Refunding a game after playing for 82 hours seems a mite unethical despite any perceived slights on the part of the devs.

If a 100+ hour game is broken after any length of time, wouldn't you want a refund? "Fraudulent marketing" makes for a broken game in a less obvious way. Nvidia just lost a chunk of money over false advertising some years back. Should they have not been penalized for that?

[Mephisto]

Refunding a game after playing for 82 hours seems a mite unethical despite any perceived slights on the part of the devs.

If a 100+ hour game is broken after any length of time, wouldn't you want a refund? "Fraudulent marketing" makes for a broken game in a less obvious way. Nvidia just lost a chunk of money over false advertising some years back. Should they have not been penalized for that?

So a game being "broken" at some point completely negates the time you put in (which was supposedly fun or why would you have played).

[BigD145]

Refunding a game after playing for 82 hours seems a mite unethical despite any perceived slights on the part of the devs.

If a 100+ hour game is broken after any length of time, wouldn't you want a refund? "Fraudulent marketing" makes for a broken game in a less obvious way. Nvidia just lost a chunk of money over false advertising some years back. Should they have not been penalized for that?

So a game being "broken" at some point completely negates the time you put in (which was supposedly fun or why would you have played).

Fun up to a point. If I rode a roller coaster and it broke halfway through, I'm asking for my money back. If I ate a tasty fillet mignon and I got food poisoning an hour later, I'm asking for my money back and my hospital bills covered. You advertised fillet mignon, not food poisoning from your mignon. I wouldn't buy that no matter how tasty the meat was. A company marketed a different product from what they sold. That's not okay.

[Random_Dragon]

So a game being "broken" at some point completely negates the time you put in (which was supposedly fun or why would you have played).

Tell that to my having bothered to play through Daikatana.

[Neonivek]

Refunding a game after playing for 82 hours seems a mite unethical despite any perceived slights on the part of the devs.

If a 100+ hour game is broken after any length of time, wouldn't you want a refund? "Fraudulent marketing" makes for a broken game in a less obvious way. Nvidia just lost a chunk of money over false advertising some years back. Should they have not been penalized for that?

So a game being "broken" at some point completely negates the time you put in (which was supposedly fun or why would you have played).

Fun up to a point. If I rode a roller coaster and it broke halfway through, I'm asking for my money back. If I ate a tasty fillet mignon and I got food poisoning an hour later, I'm asking for my money back and my hospital bills covered. You advertised fillet mignon, not food poisoning from your mignon. I wouldn't buy that no matter how tasty the meat was. A company marketed a different product from what they sold. That's not okay.

That and what a laughable precedent to create.

Simply string people along with false advertisement until it is too late to do it.

Where have I heard this before? OHH RIGHT! The case where a company poisoned an entire town, lied about it, and basically waited until it became too late to sue them. Yeah the courts did not accept that excuse.

Sending someone "demos" of the supposive product until they rack up hours and then going "Well, now you can't refund you tried the demo"...
-Oddly enough... I would TOTALLY SUPPORT being able to refund a early access game after its been released... but it isn't feasible for Steam to do that. Then again I say this because Early Access has been abused to the extent that I wouldn't even object to a early access ban.

[BigD145]

Refunding a game after playing for 82 hours seems a mite unethical despite any perceived slights on the part of the devs.

If a 100+ hour game is broken after any length of time, wouldn't you want a refund? "Fraudulent marketing" makes for a broken game in a less obvious way. Nvidia just lost a chunk of money over false advertising some years back. Should they have not been penalized for that?

So a game being "broken" at some point completely negates the time you put in (which was supposedly fun or why would you have played).

Fun up to a point. If I rode a roller coaster and it broke halfway through, I'm asking for my money back. If I ate a tasty fillet mignon and I got food poisoning an hour later, I'm asking for my money back and my hospital bills covered. You advertised fillet mignon, not food poisoning from your mignon. I wouldn't buy that no matter how tasty the meat was. A company marketed a different product from what they sold. That's not okay.

That and what a laughable precedent to create.

Simply string people along with false advertisement until it is too late to do it.

Where have I heard this before? OHH RIGHT! The case where a company poisoned an entire town, lied about it, and basically waited until it became too late to sue them. Yeah the courts did not accept that excuse.

Just keep on going forward and ask for forgiveness later, if forced to do so.

[Scripten]

You can really tell a thread has gone salty when people are comparing a slightly disappointing game with arguably shit PR equivalent to poisoning an entire town's water.

[Neonivek]

You can really tell a thread has gone salty when people are comparing a slightly disappointing game with arguably shit PR equivalent to poisoning an entire town's water.

Can you think of another case where a company intentionally lied to people with the sole intention of waiting until the statute of limitations ran out?

I honestly can't...

I am not saying Starbound is the same as poisoning people by any stretch.

[Sirus]

You can really tell a thread has gone salty when people are comparing a slightly disappointing game with arguably shit PR equivalent to poisoning an entire town's water.

Can you think of another case where a company intentionally lied to people with the sole intention of waiting until the statute of limitations ran out?

I honestly can't...

Not the point, and I'm fairly sure you know that.

[Neonivek]

You can really tell a thread has gone salty when people are comparing a slightly disappointing game with arguably shit PR equivalent to poisoning an entire town's water.

Can you think of another case where a company intentionally lied to people with the sole intention of waiting until the statute of limitations ran out?

I honestly can't...

Not the point, and I'm fairly sure you know that.

Sorry let me respond to the point instead of actually saying something intelligent. I kind of ignored/interpreted-it-the-best-possible-way that part for a reason but if you insist Sirus.

OHH NO!!! people are complaining! OHH THE HUMANITY! I shall weep tears of blood onto this BATTLEFIELD where much casualties have been laid.

Damn it people! When will we ever learn... that humanity will never truly achieve peace until they are completely content with everything all the time and have absolutely no emotional attachments whatsoever.

[Random_Dragon]

You can really tell a thread has gone salty when people are comparing a slightly disappointing game with arguably shit PR equivalent to poisoning an entire town's water.

At least I used a fairly fitting comparison, feature-handling-wise, when I mentioned Daikatana. And continuing on that thread:

"Chucklefish's about to make you their bitch."

We need a fake Starbound ad mocked up to resemble those old Daikatana ads. o3o

[Chiefwaffles]

Oh.
Wow.
I can see that rationality has disappeared from this thread.

I'll just uh.
I'll just leave now.


..sheesh.

[Darkmere]

I can see that rationality has disappeared from this thread.

It's been out to lunch off and on for a long time.

[Sappho]

It would be fun to create the curriculum for a psychology course based entirely around this thread.

EDIT: Oh, and I finally beat the Erchius mine without cheating! It was a LOT easier after I got the double-jump tech which I somehow didn't realize I could get before. That and a stack of about 300 hunting spears.

[Tiruin]

It would be fun to create the curriculum for a psychology course based entirely around this thread.

It's really lacking as of this moment though.

EDIT: Oh, and I finally beat the Erchius mine without cheating! It was a LOT easier after I got the double-jump tech which I somehow didn't realize I could get before. That and a stack of about 300 hunting spears.

Umph ._. The early game is a killer for me. EVERYONE IS SO TOUGH and I don't have armor (so I die in 3-ish hits).
I found it annoying that when I beat the boss, the guy that usually 'drops' CAN GET KILLED from the minions that spawn. Not having any idea on what he says, I repeated the mission again because 'loldeaths on NPCs', and he just says...not-really-essential-details. >_>
But mostly what I just didn't like was the new hotbinding thing. I miss my keybindings, and how does this new one work? (Can't select from the bar by itself) T_T

* Tiruin high-fives Sappho for her awesomeness.

How do you get that tech? Outpost quests? ._.;

Also it seems villagers get mad if you...break their pots, but don't mind if you loot their chests and otherwise?
_{And they remember your face no matter how long you stay away, and I can't parley anymore!}
At least they're limited to only those who got grumpy at you...