what exactly does the bold mean?
So you are telling me when someone says black people like fried chicken and watermelon, it helps expose people to them and breeds tolerance? Right. I'm sure you're in a position to make that call, too.
South Park does homophobia, transphobia, and sexism because adolescent white male 4chan types 1) agree with the stereotypes and 2) think it's edgy to offend other people.
When I was in high school, a good part of the reason I had to leave one of my schools was because everyone found out I liked girls. So when I see nasty stereotypes of the LGBTQIA community, it hurts me and anyone else that has had to experience suffering because of stereotypes and hate. I don't care if you find tolerance and acceptance boring. Like I said, you need to rework your priorities if hurting other people is what makes you laugh.
You know what was really funny that Daniel Tosh did, I'm sure you'll think this is hilarious. He made rape jokes on stage, and when an audience member yelled "Rape jokes are never funny" he said, (and I'm paraphrasing, but it's pretty close) "wouldn't it be funny if a 15 year old girl got gang raped by a bunch of guys right now?"
You find that funny? Because that shit actually happens. It's not funny, it's not edgy, it's not cute, it is a serious attempt to cause harm to others for your own amusement.
There is very much a power dynamic in play. Societally and in general, white straight cis-gendered males have... and maybe you haven't noticed this because you are experiencing only this, a big advantage in our society. You are in a position of power by virtue of winning the genetic lottery. This is not inherently your fault, but it does obligate you to show some empathy to your fellow human beings and stop acting like making light of their suffering is anything but awful.
The bold is acknowledgement that you are passionate about this.
Your impersonation of SP is rather shallow. You want fantastic evidence that they have an agenda to change social opinion? Look at their newest season. Its so blunt its humorless relative to their earlier seasons. It appeals to these '4-chan' types and conforms them to ideals. Thats what the moral lesson at the end of most episodes is. Thats why they take topical humor and dress it up.
On stereotypes that hurt people. All of them can, even your stereotypes about how lucky white males are. That you cannot extend that to include women is quite telling. But when a parody is made of those stereotypes it weakens them and makes light of them. Only the least imaginative or most cruel of people would use that parody and build off of it, but the general overall effect of the parody remains a positive one.
On Tosh. I give zero fucks about the scumwad, but respect the visual shock jock's right tot say what he wants on his show. If a corporation can endorse him with our laws, he should be able to say it. I find that rape jokes are like death jokes or whatnot: they embody macabre and coping. Its human condition to suffer, and humans deal with it by finding what comfort they can in horrifying circumstance. Its not the most healthy way of living, but neither is smoking or drinking. You cannot say you believe in free speech and then seek to censor that kind of rancid humor.
Sexuality and gender identity are definitely far more complex in real life than in the game, the fact that dwarves can now like the same or the two binary genders is pretty awesome though. As I said in another thread, it would be killer to see transsexual or gender fluid dwarves but I don't know how that would play out.
i agree though, marriage for love seems oddly out of place for dwarf fortress. Political arraignments and arranged marriages make way more sense.
I find it to be a sociopolitical move on Toady's part which only adds value in making things more randomly difficult. It had and continues to have no purpose in the game and its exclusion would not have been missed out of the political sphere.
Your last comment pretty much expresses everything you needed to express. White straight cis-gendered male, doesn't care about other peoples' problems, doesn't care if they are presented in the game.
1) you getting privilege by virtue of your birth is not a stereotype, it is a fact. Don't try to twist things around like even actual stereotypes will have a long term detrimental effect on you or move society as a whole against you. You are experiencing privilege, you show a distinct lack of empathy towards the plight of others. I don't care if this makes you feel stereotyped because you are not suffering from systemic oppression. It has no effect in your actual life.
Something you said in your first post, that big gay al is mildly exaggerated. Do you even know anyone who is gay? Being a gay male isn't like being in a YMCA music video. But people like you think that because you see it on south park and in a lot of other places. This is a negative thing. It allows you to see a minority group as strange and different and laughable. You are not forced to perceive them as people. You are not required to question your prejudices. But it doesn't appear you have an interest in doing that either way, to be honest.
I really don't care about South Park enough to watch it anymore, it's, at its best, 3rd grade potty humor with some bigotry thrown in. I don't think they have an agenda, they are just pushing the same crap that every other show trying to be edgy with bigotry is pushing. I don't think it's possible to have a deep discussion about South Park, or for my views on it to be anything but shallow, because it is, as far as shows go, a colossal waste of time.
I don't even necessarily hate every thing by Trey Parker and Matt Stone. Both Orgasmo and Cannibal: the Musical were quite funny.
I don't understand what Tosh's legal right to be a monster has to do with anything. I'm not saying the government should come in and silence him, so that is entirely irrelevant. Freedom of Speech is only relevant to whether or not the government can silence what you are saying. That does'nt mean he should be supported or encouraged.
The fact that you actually insinuated that the listed joke was a way of handling the darkness of rape... what rape? Tosh's? Some 15 year old girl he's never met?
Nobody whose been raped is going to laugh at that shit. It's going to trigger them. Daniel Tosh, nor you I am going to assume based on your comments, has had to deal with the psychological anguish that comes from being raped. Have you ever met anyone whose child got murdered? Would it be appropriate to joke about it with them?
I could throw a huge list of rape statistics at you, the fact that rape has a 4% conviction rate, that most don't go to trial, that only 2-4% of reported rapes are false. that college women (remember the target audience of tosh.0 is college men) have a 1 in 4 chance of being raped. That they will be asked what they were wearing and how much they had drank and so forth and so on. Or that the colleges cover it up and "try to provide equal sensitivity to the victim and the accused" to paraphrase one college official.
I could talk about the two teenage girls who were raped, and then had nude photos put up of them online from it, and were slut shamed and cyber bullied into killing themselves.
Or the judge that was forced, and only complied the third time, to follow mandatory sentencing for a teacher who raped his student, (who was also slut shamed and killed herself) because he felt she was just as complicit in the act as he was.
Or maybe you've heard the one about the for House of Representatives member whose son raped two girls, and the DA refused to take it to trial, one of the girls was forced to leave town, and then her house was burned down.
Stop me when one of these stories strikes you as particularly amusing.
Having never been raped, having never had to deal with homophobia or transphobia or sexism or racism, you most certainly are the most qualified person to declare what is and is not okay. I mean, none of this hurts you, so why can't we all just get a sense of humor, amirite?
Edit: incidentally, as a white woman, I experience white privilege, but what you seem to have completely overlooked is that women are also an oppressed minority. I experience all of that oppression, as well. In fact, a a gamer female, I am in a particularly dangerous spot ever speaking out on anything like this, especially after what happened with Gamergate. It is regularly made clear by a sector of the male gaming populace that we, as women, are not welcome and we will be hurt in any way possible if we try to speak out.
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