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[Jim Groovester]

Inspecting flabort (for real this time) was a no go.

I considered spending my last inspect on Cheeetar because then I could tell who between him and Shakerag was lying, but I think I'll wait for more potentially contentious claims before spending my last inspect.

Wincon: You win when Shakerag wins.

Maybe TolyK is being cheeky with the wincon. That is, Shakerag wasn't Shakerag when he won, he was Cheeetar, and since Cheetar won and not Shakerag, you didn't win.

[Cheeetar]

Wincon: You win when Shakerag wins.

Maybe TolyK is being cheeky with the wincon. That is, Shakerag wasn't Shakerag when he won, he was Cheeetar, and since Cheetar won and not Shakerag, you didn't win.

Urgh.

[zombie urist]

Maybe TolyK is being cheeky with the wincon. That is, Shakerag wasn't Shakerag when he won, he was Cheeetar, and since Cheetar won and not Shakerag, you didn't win.

That would be terrible and hilarious.

[TolyK]

That would be very bastardy.

Yes.

Yessss.

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Probably not. Pretty sure.

[Toaster]

Cheeetar:  Your wincon seems pretty straightforward to me.  Why would you say you didn't know what it was?

[Shakerag]

Goddamnit, TolyK. 

I have been informed by our bastard of a mod, that I technically haven't won yet, but I have triggered conditions such that I automatically win when the game is over. 

He has also so graciously informed me that if Cheeetar is telling the truth, then he will automatically win at the end of the game as well. 

So.

I'm not going to storm off in a rage yet, because that may have been more of an error on my part and not fully reading the fine print. 


Persus13: You're useless.


Oh, and for the sake of full disclosure, I jailkeepered Vector last night.  I did not send her a message.


TolyK/webadict:  Do role-stealings have higher priority than jailkeepings? 

[TolyK]

"Protection" is only against kills unless otherwise mentioned, so the two abilities don't interest.

[4maskwolf]

Hmm...
Okay.

Do you know of any way for you to die, Shakerag?

Because I can't win unless you leave the game in some way.

The way I see it, all of the claims so far will mean that everybody who has claimed wins if I win.

Or am I missing someone who wouldn't?

[Shakerag]

"Protection" is only against kills unless otherwise mentioned, so the two abilities don't interest.

Ahh, derp.  I don't know why I thought that made my target unactionable. 


4maskwolf:  I do not know of any way to kill me, no.  I'd say my abilities would have to be disabled/stolen first. 

The alternative, however, would be to somehow change your wincon or have you win in another way. 

[Cheeetar]

Cheeetar:  Your wincon seems pretty straightforward to me.  Why would you say you didn't know what it was?

I was told Shakerag wasn't Shakerag. And then there was the whole 'shakerag faction' thing. So there was me wondering if I was an ally to Shakerag the player, Shakerag the role, or Shakerag the faction, with TolyK sitting there refusing to tell me which one.

[4maskwolf]

Changing my wincon might (emphasis on might) work, but adding an alternative wincon probably won't, based on how the conversion reads.

[zombie urist]

What's the wincon of the cult?

[4maskwolf]

What's the wincon of the cult?

The cult is the last faction alive.  Because of my hybrid wincon, though, my survival is considered as "all anti-town factions are dead" as well as "cult is the last faction left alive".

[TheDarkStar]

Here's my role:

Shakerag's Little Helper
Wincon: (Town) XOR (all other Shakerags are dead AND you are alive)
(A) Overtime Toy Production: You may take two actions per phase
(N) Naughty or Nice[t/self]: You determine if the target is a Shakerag or not.
(N) Make Toy[t]: You make a toy for the target

Ghost
Wincon: The Ghost has its own wincon, but yours is not modified.
(A) Eternally Wandering: Your Ghost visits a random person each night unless specified otherwise.
(N) Unfinished Business [t]: You remind the Ghost that Target wronged them in their past life, quadrupling their chances of being targeted this night.

Night Actions:

N2: Targeted Cheeetar with Naughty or Nice (and he is confirmed as a Shakerag).
N2: Make Toy on Shakerag (Basically, it lets me win if he wins).

[TheDarkStar]

What's the wincon of the cult?

The cult is the last faction alive.  Because of my hybrid wincon, though, my survival is considered as "all anti-town factions are dead" as well as "cult is the last faction left alive".

Could everyone become cult?