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[Rolepgeek]

*gaaaasp*

KJP's back!

Yay!

<3

[Stirk]

Its...coming back! YAY! _{I....I thought we lost you KJP...So many long nights waiting.....me running a weird rip off...it was all worth it}

[Andres]

Holy gods in the heavens yes!

[Kilojoule Proton]

For any question in the survey, feel free to elaborate on your reasoning for a given choice (even providing new options if necessary). While I would prefer having the results posted on OOC to maintain transparency, I suggest sending potential flamebait items by PM.

Spoiler: Survey (click to show/hide)

1. How much player power (as opposed to GM power) did you feel there was during YG0?
a. Far too little
b. Too little
c. Adequate
d. Too much
e. Far too much

2. What did you think of having a one-dimensional stat (Essence) for gods?
a. Excessive, i.e. remove stats entirely (e.g. use actions)
b. Sufficient, i.e. an Essence stat for gods is enough
c. Insufficient, i.e. need more stats for gods

3. What did you think of the amount of conflict?
a. Too little
b. Adequate
c. Too much

4. How much power do you think the Council had?
a. Far too little
b. Too little
c. Enough
d. Too much
e. Far too much

5. How much emphasis should secret actions be given?
a. Less
b. About the same
c. More

6. How important are prompt updates to you?
a. Not important at all
b. Not important
c. Important
d. Very important

7. How much do you think a god's actions should be governed by sphere?
a. Very little
b. Little
c. Some
d. A lot

8. How would you like to change the emphasis on NPCs?
a. Reduce
b. Maintain
c. Increase

9. How easy should gods be to kill? (suggestions recommended for attack and defense components)
a. Harder
b. Easier

10. Would you like to see a ministers system implemented at the start of (a) future game(s)? (The ministers system likely involves increased votes for elected ministers on their departments and a system for electing them. Note that such a system can be implemented ior removed later as with other Council projects assuming a similar or identical Council setup.)
a. Yes
b. No

11. How much should players be allowed to interfere with each other's creations at the start?
a. Very little
b. Little
c. Much
d. Very much

12. How much should lack of originality be penalized?
a. Not at all
b. Not much
c. Some
d. A lot

13. Given the Captain Ersatz rule, do you think my fear of lawyers was excessive or insufficient?
@. Yes
b. Excessive
c. Sufficient
d. Insufficient

14. How important is an overall cooperative goal for the gods? (YG0's cooperative goal was intended to be any combination of understanding, expanding, assimilating with the Void factions, or beginning a long quest to exterminate them.)
a. Not important
b. Important

15. How much realism would you prefer to see?
a. None at all, i.e. a world running on godly actions alone requiring no connection with reality
b. A little, i.e. a fairy tale-like world where much is possible with some resemblence to reality
c. Significant, i.e. a high fantasy setting where technology dominates and magic and divine action are useful only for certain special cases
d. Near-full, i.e. a world adhering to natural laws with godly actions treated very realistically

16. What part of the game did you most like?

17. What part of the game did you most dislike?

18. What do you like ior dislike most about my writing?

0-10 scale questions (10 highest):
19. How much would you like to have the pantheon split into 2-3 administrative teams at the start?
For: Reduces individual risk; Allows normally minority positions to pass (locally)
Against: Demands increased participation; May supersede per-player diplomacy?

20. How much granularity/fine-grained control do you feel is ideal for world design?
For: Emphasizes one of the main attractions for god games in general
Against: Increased overhead with little effect?

21. How much would you want increased attention to intrigue?
For: Focuses on a popular feature for similar games
Against: Comes at the potential expense of some dissatisfaction

22. How much do you value randomness (dice with non-arbitrary modifiers) over intuition (KJP's festering and brooding)
High: Less change to last game's design; Prevents KJP's mood from affecting much
Low: Leads to skill overriding luck; Increases the "human touch" to the story

23. On a scale of -5 to 5, how much anthropomorphism/anthropocentrism do you expect of unspecified NPCs?
High: More relatable; Easier to interact with(/write?)
Low: Possibly more realistic; Aligns with realism more closely

24. On a scale of -5 to 5 (higher being stronger), how strong would you want the Captain Ersatz rule to be?
-5: Require creations to be references?
-4: Abolish it
0: Retain it for possible future amendment (in either direction)
4: Strengthen it
5: Block anything previously existing?

Open-ended questions:
25. What do you think of secret goals and how they should be rewarded, determined, integrated, &c.?

26. What sort of magic system do you want? (I have already prepared a more mechanically developed one to replace the loose, broken old one. It is still highly extensible.)

27. Any other changes/features you want in the base game?

EDIT: renumerated survey because it had two question 13s
EDIT: corrected incorrect examples for effects of more and less randomness (skill overrides luck when there's not much luck to go around, durr)

[micelus]

Oh yay, I can try out that other god concept I have.

[TheBiggerFish]

Dang it, I don't have enough tabs for another game on my tablet!  Well, I could close something, I guess?
As for the Survey:
I can't really speak for some of the questions, not having actually, y'know, played, but
I don't like that everything is Cast From Hit Points, although a mechanic that lets you do so could very well work,
updates should happen when you say they're going to happen, but you don't need to stick to a schedule,
I think that in any setting with gods messing about, realism fluctuates like boiling water, but middling realism (magic is a thing, gods can do god things without having to deal with pesky things like physics, but mortals generally obey gravity, however gravity works) is what I'd go for
gods should perhaps have alignment bonuses and penalties but no restricted actions,
the gods should bloody well make their own magic if they want it,
the players and gods should be allowed to form their own organizations (why do all the gods exist on one Council, it seems kind of stupid to have directly opposing deities nullifying eachother repeatedly...),
Lack of originality punishment should depend on whether there's actually a viable way to do something another way,
...Uh that's it.

[Andres]

I don't quite understand question 7. Is it asking if gods should only be able to do stuff within their sphere or is it asking how big of a bonus a sphere should give? Will "A lot" provide a malus/impossibility on all non-aligned actions regardless of whether Essence is used or not? Does "Very little" mean it's ownly for flavour?

I'm also unsure on question 12. Is this about originality versus what's being created by other gods, what's generally present in fiction and real life (humans, guns, and elves, for example), or is it related to Ersatz?

Finally, I'd like to ask about question 14. What is the current amount of realism in Ye Gods? I want it to be possible for science to advance as normal but I also want magic to influence the world as heavily as it would in real life. It shouldn't be forcefully suppressed in game mechanics to make the world closer to real life.

[Stirk]

Spoiler: Survey (click to show/hide)

1. How much player power (as opposed to GM power) did you feel there was during YG0?
c. Adequate

2. What did you think of having a one-dimensional stat (Essence) for gods?
c. Insufficient, i.e. need more stats for gods

3. What did you think of the amount of conflict?
b. Adequate

4. How much power do you think the Council had?
d. Too much

5. How much emphasis should secret actions be given?
b. About the same (assuming you can handle it *Looks at Message box and shudders*)


6. How important are prompt updates to you?
c. Important (...But not as important as having a not-overworked GM))

7. How much do you think a god's actions should be governed by sphere?
b. Little

8. How would you like to change the emphasis on NPCs?
c. Increase

9. How easy should gods be to kill? (suggestions recommended for attack and defense components)
b. Easier (Attack/defense components...I would have to think about it. Haven't got much a chance to try that part out yet)

10. Would you like to see a ministers system implemented at the start of (a) future game(s)? (The ministers system likely involves increased votes for elected ministers on their departments and a system for electing them. Note that such a system can be implemented ior removed later as with other Council projects assuming a similar or identical Council setup.)
b. No

11. How much should players be allowed to interfere with each other's creations at the start?
b. Little


12. How much should lack of originality be penalized?
d. A lot

13. Given the Captain Ersatz rule, do you think my fear of lawyers was excessive or insufficient?
d. Insufficient

13. How important is an overall cooperative goal for the gods? (YG0's cooperative goal was intended to be any combination of understanding, expanding, assimilating with the Void factions, or beginning a long quest to exterminate them.)
b. Important (Struggled with that one, but having an overall plot helped I think.)

14. How much realism would you prefer to see?
b. A little, i.e. a fairy tale-like world where much is possible with some resemblence to reality


15. What part of the game did you most like?
A hard one! Creating, conflict, creating conflict...

16. What part of the game did you most dislike?
Another hard one...for the opposite reasons. I guess the only thing I could really think of was the lack of an ending, we had no real closure until now. Everyone can deal with a game ending, but a game being left unfinished leaves everyone anxious.

17. What do you like ior dislike most about my writing?
The silliness is my favorite part~.

0-10 scale questions (10 highest):
18. How much would you like to have the pantheon split into 2-3 administrative teams at the start?
For: Reduces individual risk; Allows normally minority positions to pass (locally)
Against: Demands increased participation; May supersede per-player diplomacy?

6

19. How much granularity/fine-grained control do you feel is ideal for world design?
For: Emphasizes one of the main attractions for god games in general
Against: Increased overhead with little effect?

7? (Should be able to control it if you feel it is necessary, but have Mortals competent enough to not die by the thousands without it)

20. How much would you want increased attention to intrigue?
For: Focuses on a popular feature for similar games
Against: Comes at the potential expense of some dissatisfaction

9

21. How much do you value randomness (dice with non-arbitrary modifiers) over intuition (KJP's festering and brooding)
High: Less change to last game's design; Prevents KJP's mood from affecting much
Low: Leads to luck overriding skill; Increases the "human touch" to the story

3 (Festering and brooding KJP are fun.))

22. On a scale of -5 to 5, how much anthropomorphism/anthropocentrism do you expect of unspecified NPCs?
High: More relatable; Easier to interact with(/write?)
Low: Possibly more realistic; Aligns with realism more closely

5

23. On a scale of -5 to 5 (higher being stronger), how strong would you want the Captain Ersatz rule to be?
4: Strengthen it (Imagination games are for imagination, not making the same derivative and stale things you can find anywhere else...)


Open-ended questions:
24. What do you think of secret goals and how they should be rewarded, determined, integrated, &c.?

Hm, maybe as a general personality trait to help them determine how their character reacts. A logical goal should, after all, have its own rewards.

25. What sort of magic system do you want? (I have already prepared a more mechanically developed one to replace the loose, broken old one. It is still highly extensible.)

Eh, I think the Gods should have some say in it, optimally. They are creating the world, after all, it is only right that they can help make it. Making it OOC feels meta.

26. Any other changes/features you want in the base game?
Can't think of any!

[Rolepgeek]

Just answer the question, Andres. Don't worry about mechanics. It's asking how much you think a god should be doing stuff within their own sphere.

Captain Ersatz is about lawyers and copyright. Aka: Don't make stuff that's a ripoff of something in a different fictional work that might sue KJP.

On a different note, what do you define as 'science advance as normal'?

[Andres]

Just answer the question, Andres. Don't worry about mechanics. It's asking how much you think a god should be doing stuff within their own sphere.

This is a mechanics question so I am going to worry about mechanics. I want to know if one of the options means I can't create a planet as a god of War.
EDIT: I want spheres to provide maluses only when dealing with their opposites.

Captain Ersatz is about lawyers and copyright. Aka: Don't make stuff that's a ripoff of something in a different fictional work that might sue KJP.

That's question 13. 13 is about Ersatz while 12 is about originality. 13 is about Spehss Mahreens while 12 is about generic elves or generic humans.

On a different note, what do you define as 'science advance as normal'?

To advance and be as important as it was IRL.

[TheBiggerFish]

Whee, lots of edit.
Also, there are no numbers, sorry.

Yeah, I agree with Andres on that one.  Bonuses for sphere, debuffs against, unaligned stuff is just in general the same.  Only I used a ton more words.

[Rolepgeek]

If you're trying to make a planet as a god of War, by yourself, you're doing something wrong. Or possibly right. Not sure.

Knowing KJP, it's probably not going to be flat restrictions, it's gonna be 'justify to me how this fits your sphere to see how much it costs'.

Science isn't gonna be as important as it was irl, for the simple reason of magic existing. Penicillin isn't as necessary when you have Remove Disease Important, still, sure. But not as much. Magitech will probably happen on it's own once somebody does something capable of enchanting stuff.

As for originality, I think he expects you to be more creative than 'I make humans,' considering this is a game about creating things.

[TheBiggerFish]

Rolepgeek, in general, there's gonna be a ton of things like creating races that gods will have to do, and, y'know, it shouldn't be impossible for anyone without a sphere of life to make some.

[FArgHalfnr]

Should I answer this? I came pretty late to the game and didn't have time to fully understand the mechanics of the game.

[Kilojoule Proton]

In all the questions, I encourage adding elaborations if you feel the existing choices aren't enough or clear.

Anyone is welcome to answer the survey.

7.: Mostly bonuses, because maluses beyond opposites tend to get unwieldy to track what with gods having one or two spheres and thousands of useful things outside. Currently, I am leaning toward providing a range of bonuses for sphere based on applicability and specificity as follows:

• An average god of red roses probably gets a big (let's say +5 on an arbitrary scale where 1 is tiny and 5 practically guarantees success) bonus to, say, killing all the red roses in a region where the only acceptable diplomacy is sending gifts of good red roses to start an unending war. Said god probably gets few bonuses for much else but thrives in a niche like that.
• An average god of emptiness probably gets a tiny bonus (1 on the above scale, 2 for especially appropriate actions) for a lot of emptiness-related things. Such a god would be more adaptable overall but locally less successful

12: Originality so far has, if I recall correctly, been treated as mostly a "no legitimately licensed works, no overt flamebait" restriction. I myself may not get any lawyergrams, but it tends to be a bad idea to provoke the known litigious copyright/trademark holders. I know there are other games here incorporating licensed works' characters/mechanics, so at least part of this may just be rationalized personal fear. This is why this issue is on the survey.

14: Realism right now is mostly based on a policy of "see what direction the players take overall." Regarding science in general, I'd ordinarily want to incorporate as much of it as possible, but that tends to lead to metagaming and outside stuff (e.g. Greek steampunk!) affecting the game.

World-building, cooperation bonuses, &c.: I'm considering making the discount on creations cap at 100% (=free stuff!) around 4-6 players. This should help proposal creations advance more quickly and smoothly.