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[mastahcheese]

I think i may change this to a general religious discussion thread

As long as people keep the same relatively calm tone, I think this would be great.

The general chillness of the thread is the biggest concern.

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

Obviously, I must remember those memories, I just don't know it yet.

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I am also being facetious.

There was this lady (I'm told) at the church we went to in Virginia when I was really young who thought that I was someone who had been reincarnated a bunch of times because I had "old, wise eyes."

Of course. Because wisdom isn't based on memories/knowledge and therefore can be carried over between incarnations.

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I'm being facetious.

Ok it's getting out of hand


I said no bashing other beleifs
I don't care if you don't beleive them or think they are absolutely insane, that's no reason to insult them with out of context coments and crap like this

You can say that you don't think they are right and state why but don't do what just happened

[Orange Wizard]

Right. Sorry.

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

Right. Sorry.

Just don't do it again please

[Frumple]

I think i may change this to a general religious discussion thread

As long as people keep the same relatively calm tone, I think this would be great.

I'd personally strongly suggest against it. General religion thread is considerably more volatile, amazingly enough (considering the general pathos vs. christianity in particular around here -- about the only thing that gets a worse reaction is islam), and far less... focused? Keeping it to one religion makes it a lot easier to say, "Get back on track" or "knock it off", as well as has an immediate and fairly accessible source of non-strawman material (actual doctrine and theology, plus we have actual members of the belief here as well as many who have had actual, on the ground, interaction with it), plus there's notable things for people to actually learn new info about as opposed to bandying ideas around (Mind you, the latter's fun, but it's very... tinder).

If someone wants a general religion thread, probably best to go make it. Leave this one more specialized.

[TD1]

What Frumple said.

If you want a general one, Cryxis, you can always make it.

[penguinofhonor]

I'd personally strongly suggest against it. General religion thread is considerably more volatile, amazingly enough (considering the general pathos vs. christianity in particular around here -- about the only thing that gets a worse reaction is islam), and far less... focused? Keeping it to one religion makes it a lot easier to say, "Get back on track" or "knock it off", as well as has an immediate and fairly accessible source of non-strawman material (actual doctrine and theology, plus we have actual members of the belief here as well as many who have had actual, on the ground, interaction with it), plus there's notable things for people to actually learn new info about as opposed to bandying ideas around (Mind you, the latter's fun, but it's very... tinder).

If someone wants a general religion thread, probably best to go make it. Leave this one more specialized.

I feel like people would have said similar things about a Christianity thread a month ago.

I don't see how it would be harder to tell people to knock off bad conversations? If you see someone saying something dumb or mean, don't make up an excuse about the thread topic. Just tell them to knock it off. That can be done even in a thread with no real topic. It would be harder to get people to stop having positive discussions that wandered into other topics, but I don't see any value in making that easier.

A more general thread doesn't have to taper off into nebulous metaphysics and spiritualism. I think that's probably the greatest risk to a general religion thread, but a general rule could be made against it. Other religions have a ton of doctrine and theology to discuss, and new things for people to learn.

As far as saying the forum doesn't have many non-Christian religious people or people who have interacted with other religions... I don't think you can say that without giving it a shot. I feel like I've seen a lot more Christians here than I expected. If there was actually a good environment for other people to talk about their beliefs, maybe they'd do that more.

[TD1]

Or, just keep this one the way it is and make another thread.

If you feel so strongly about it, you could make the new thread yourself.

It's what would make everyone happy.

[penguinofhonor]

I'm lazy though.

[mastahcheese]

Alright, I went back and trudged it up. (It's really vague, though)

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I remember that before that [memory], I was seated at this long wooden table by myself, at the head of the table. I could feel rocking, like I was on a ship, and see the light hanging from the ceiling swaying slightly back and forth, and I just felt... Alone, moreso than anything else.

Then it shifted to the second one, where I was standing on the deck of the ship, and I felt myself get stabbed from behind, and I looked down and could see the blade, as well as the blue uniform I was wearing.
I felt this feeling of betrayel, like I knew who did it, and then I went off the port side of the ship into the water, looking up at the night sky. And then it faded out.

I wasn't asleep or anything when it happened, I was wide awake.

And now I realize this is completely off the topic. Oh well.

[tahujdt]

Alright, I went back and trudged it up. (It's really vague, though)

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I remember that before that [memory], I was seated at this long wooden table by myself, at the head of the table. I could feel rocking, like I was on a ship, and see the light hanging from the ceiling swaying slightly back and forth, and I just felt... Alone, moreso than anything else.

Then it shifted to the second one, where I was standing on the deck of the ship, and I felt myself get stabbed from behind, and I looked down and could see the blade, as well as the blue uniform I was wearing.
I felt this feeling of betrayel, like I knew who did it, and then I went off the port side of the ship into the water, looking up at the night sky. And then it faded out.

I wasn't asleep or anything when it happened, I was wide awake.

And now I realize this is completely off the topic. Oh well.

'salright, it's at least tangentially related to what we were talking about a little bit ago.

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

I'm a bit curious on juedism and Islam
Though I don't want to discuss it hear and don't really want to start a thread on something I know nothing about

[tahujdt]

I'm a bit curious on juedism and Islam
Though I don't want to discuss it hear and don't really want to start a thread on something I know nothing about

I'm gonna step out for a bit, I don't have many nice things to say about Islam.

It was a Muslim who invented algebra, though, I'll give them that.

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

I'm a bit curious on juedism and Islam
Though I don't want to discuss it hear and don't really want to start a thread on something I know nothing about

I'm gonna step out for a bit, I don't have many nice things to say about Islam.

It was a Muslim who invented algebra, though, I'll give them that.

I don't much like Islam myself, but I know little about it and I don't want to be an ignorant red neck like the rest of the people that live in this part of the US.

[Frumple]

Probably best to try some independent research on it, especially the somewhat before modern times history and the non-radicalized parts of current worship and population. I've done nothing terribly in depth in regards to checking stuff out m'self, but there's certainly plenty of good stuff from it -- especially the earlier parts of the qur'an, before Muhammad himself became more aggressive in the face of aggression (and even after that, stuff like the islamic theology regarding just war was pretty damn progressive for its time in a lot of ways), and some of the associated texts -- and most followers (the vast, vast majority) are just... people.

Much of the problems seen related to it are considerably more social or cultural rather than religious... and the islamophobia and general xenophobia regarding the muslim population of the world among western populations means you get a very poisoned discourse, as well. Overt and directed negativity from the western perspective, understandable defensiveness considering it from the muslim, and what appears by all accounts to be a great deal of media effort to suppress or ignore anything contrary to that dialectic. Nasty shit with a lot of geopolitics and old anger mixed in.

It gets an incredibly bad rap in the western world, but the fact of the matter is that the muslim population is roughly equal to the christian one and yet we somehow have most of said ~1/3rd the human species getting along fairly peaceably.

Still, it's a very inflammable topic, especially on a majority western forum. Someone could try for a thread, but it would probably be best to just... try not to talk about it much, honestly.