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[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

How about that whole "turn the other cheek" thing

so let them shoot you and take your money?

[Frumple]

Well, a less contextual interpretation would say yes, exactly. Except, not just let them shoot you and take your money, but to thank them for shooting you and maybe give them your bank access PIN, too.

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

maybe im just weird but i would disarm the guy if i could and then help him get on his feet instead of letting him shoot me and continue his criminal life

[TD1]

How about that whole "turn the other cheek" thing

so let them shoot you and take your money?

Also, "An eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth."

[Frumple]

Not so much "weird" as "willing to ignore the words of Christ when it comes to self-defense".

You're in good company, really. Pretty much every Christian selectively chooses what and what not to actually follow.

You heretic

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

Well i would do that to help him, you know break his arm to keep him from killing you then take him to a hospital to heal him, feed him, clothe him, and house him

so to keep him from being a criminal

[TD1]

Is that a weird mix of the Good Samaritan and "Tooth for a tooth?"

Because, AFAIK, the Samaritan didn't beat him up first

Essentially, what you're doing is making your own moral decision, not because of the Bible. Then, as a nod to the Bible, you try to "make it better" by...housing a dangerous criminal who will likely rob you blind/kill you.

[Frumple]

Well i would do that to help him, you know break his arm to keep him from killing you then take him to a hospital to heal him, feed him, clothe him, and house him

so to keep him from being a criminal

Which is fine*, just pretty far from what the passages in matthew or luke said to do regarding the subject.

*E: Well, barring the fact that trying to do so notably increases your chances of getting killed, but whatev'.

[Neonivek]

Well... Sort of...

Jesus' words on self-defense is more... Don't take revenge and finding a better way.

Because trust me... Jesus may have been a bit TOO into self-defense >_>

[Leafsnail]

Wikipedia, maaan.

That wink fellow's interpretation is pretty interesting. Not so much non-resistence as Jesus advocating being a jackass in response to jackassery. Might be interesting to do some research and see how justified an interpretation it is...

I kinda' like the sense of escalation in the cloak bit. "Take my shirt, eh? Well, alright, time to flash a foo'. Cost of admission, one eyefull of my entire righteous splendor! It has more wrinkles than an elephant's arse, AND NOW I'M GOING TO SHARE!"

And now I can see a situation where "Naked Pelvic Thrusts For God" is actually a thing. I wonder how a mugger would actually react to that?

I'm not sure if I buy those convenient contextual explanations, but yeah I can see it as a parable of non-violent resistance (it's not telling you to submit, it's telling you to stand firm no matter what they try to do to you).  I don't see how it's compatible with violent retaliation though.

so let them shoot you and take your money?

Take it up with Jesus, I didn't write The Bible.

Also, "An eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth."

Jesus is specifically rebutting/redefining that line during that speech.

[Orange Wizard]

I think we need to draw a line between preventing harm to yourself or another, and causing harm - be it with the intention of preventing harm or otherwise.

I'd say if someone's going to stab you, you have every right to knock the knife out of their hand, but that's no reason not to offer them your coat if they look cold, and invite them in for a cup of tea.

Of course, no-one actually does that, but that's my interpretation of what is being said.

I might also be barking up the wrong tree.

[Frumple]

I don't see how it's compatible with violent retaliation though.

Not so much compatible as potentially not incompatible. As the wiki page actually mentions, iirc, Streaker J doesn't say much on what to do in the case of reacting to life-threatening violence, only (in these cases) on how to react to being stolen from or maybe abused. You can take that to imply a wider degree of action, but given that the critter's apparently not terribly chuffed about war, or violent law enforcement (capital punishment, et al, seems to be alright by 'im -- or, at least, again, not directly spoken on terribly much), it'd probably be pretty easy to make a case the authors were, at least, uncommitted in regards to violent retaliation in the case of certain thresholds of violence.

All that said, Wink's interpretation makes for much more amusing headcanon, and I like it better, now. Christ, He Who Advocated Public Indecency to Shame Your Oppressors.

Streaker J is yesunim's street name now, by the way.

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

I wonder if that would work to stop a mugging?
Just stripping down and confusing the heck out of the guy

[mastahcheese]

I wonder if that would work to stop a mugging?
Just stripping down and confusing the heck out of the guy

I think I remember someone in high school saying this was their plan if someone tried to mug them.

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

Though I don't think it would help much for sexual assault