If you don't mind, i rudely posit my own answer: That we might help Sam feel better, ideally to the point where he doesn't want to throw his own life away. As i mentioned, i don't believe in an afterlife of any kind, so the idea of anyone forfeiting this one and only life is terrifying to me. That's my answer. I can't speak for Tiruin or Sam.
@Shook
I'm sorry, but you don't seem to understand my point. It's my fault, of course, for not being able to explain it better.
Just... seems that since I was abandoned by nearly everyone, nobody understands me. And... I don't really care. I have to be alone, because others would just try to hurt me, no matter if it's out of good motivation or bad.
Kindness and other things like this do exist in this world, but they are extremely limited and have a tendency to burn off fast. Humans can't be kind for too long. It goes against their nature.
P.S. I hate making long forum posts...
I've been abandoned, betrayed and bullied over the course of 5 very long years of my childhood, i know how terrible the feeling is, and i'm not as much of a simpleton as i may appear. It has hurt me, and it has left scars that are still in the slow and painful process of healing. By the ass end of those 5 years, there was literally ONE person left in the school who i could call a friend, the rest were indifferent or outright hostile. It started out because i was a different kid; i liked computers, they liked football. It escalated in part because of my own poor reactions, and in part because as time went, it shifted from "he's different" to "he's our target, it's just how things work", and people didn't even bother looking for a reason to be an arse to me. I KNOW how it feels to be outnumbered 20 to 1, and how it feels when they're all spitting their verbal diarrhea all over ones face, alienating me, actively trying to make me cry, and how it'd only get worse if i retaliated in any manner. I could only shut myself in, so that's what i did. This made me appear as a bitter recluse instead of the cheerful lad that i was/am. It was sometimes so bad that i would hit myself in the stomach to provoke a stomach ache, so i didn't have to go to school.
Is this all normal, acceptable and justified? Not by any stretch of the imagination. It's disappointingly common, but it's about as normal, acceptable and justified as the Nazi persecution of jews (read: NOT normal, NOT acceptable, NOT justified). All this goes to show that humans can be utter monsters, and does indeed support your case.
HOWEVER.
Don't ignore the good guys. You hear about crimes all day every day, but you don't hear about all the regular people who go about their day studying diligently and hanging out with their friends. I'm sorry to be putting words in your mouth, but it seems like you don't even want this world to be good, the way you're merrily skipping around all evidence of human kindness with the old and tired "you don't understand" card. You say we can't look past our natures, but here you are, and here i am. I'm not trying to hurt you, and you're not trying to hurt me (even though it is mildly offensive to be bunched in the big "humans are all violent criminals" barrel). Humans are social animals, not marauders. If we're going by your logic, then dogs are all terrible because a few of them try to attack each other. Horses too, for that matter. And camels, and sheep, and elephants, and giraffes. They're all terrible and violent assholes because they don't live a life of pure peace, full stop.
That's just bullshit, right?
Now, please don't go thinking that i'm trivializing what you've been through, because bullying is terrible and is done by terrible people, and i'm still feeling the aftereffects myself. But, try to think about the people who
aren't bullying you. Are they alienating you, or are you pushing them away because you automatically think they're terrible? I'm not blaming you here, it's just food for thought. I've found myself thinking the same. I've found the excess to think about such things, because in the 6 years that have passed since i got out of elementary school, i have met so many nice and kind people that it's almost making me cry tears of joy. In the beginning, i was prevented from easily getting close to people because i still had that force field around me, which made me distance myself from them. I still have that a bit, but the force field is oh so much smaller now. I've let people into my life, my interest, my quirks... And my flaws, too. They haven't hurt me. They have all the ammunition they need to make my life a living hell, but they'd seemingly much rather be my friend. Likewise for my relation to them; I COULD be a complete arse, but that just feels inherently wrong to me, both logically and emotionally. You've probably heard of the golden rule: "One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself". This goes for everyone, and is surprisingly deeply embedded in almost every culture. Therefore, as a basis, i treat others nicely and have an eye-to-eye level of respect for them. If they reciprocate, great! If not, politely say "goodbye" and you can both be on your way. Most of the time, people will reciprocate.
So, what this means is that if you approach people with a sour "what do you want from me pesky human" attitude, they're not going to be as positive. Obviously, the people who are abusing you are rock-bottom idiots who should be thrown into the ocean, but the rest of humanity shouldn't automatically be thrown as well. There's no chain in between them. Again, forgive me for being blunt and callous here, but it seems a bit odd to me that you identify as a truly kind soul when you're so eager to dismiss all evidence of human kindness and stamp the entirety of humanity as a bunch of violent apes. That's bigotry, and it's not a nice thing. I totally get that your point of reference is anything but favourable; i've had that deal going too in a very unfortunate manner. Among the many tormentors i've had, those of foreign ethnicity tended to be the worst (although there were absolutely also danish assholes). Guess how that coloured my world view? Yup, i'm struggling with racism in my head, because i've had too many negative and too few positive interactions with people of foreign ethnicity in my childhood. There's constantly this dumb little voice being like "oh no he's black/middle eastern/whatever" when i know full and well that this is not indicative of anything beyond physical appearance. I have since gone on to meet many such people who have ended up becoming friends of mine. Point is, you can't judge an entire harvest based on a few bad apples, and you can't judge an entire population of humans based on a few assholes.
You may notice that i'm referring to myself a lot. This is because i speak from experience, as one who has both felt and been tormented by his peers. I understand much more than i'm comfortable with, and i'd hate to see similar issues ruining the life of another.
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