That doesn't mean the aggressive suspect needs to get shot, obviously, they just have to get restrained before they hurt someone else. And sometimes people make that really difficult on themselves.
They make it difficult on themselves, said every other domestic abuser that's ever lived. Because those situations actually tend to end with someone restrained with minimal harm, and the "have to get restrained before they hurt someone else" doesn't apply to the people actually causing harm, warranted or not.
It's always kinda' mind boggling that someone that's reacting poorly to being aggressed
against is the one that gets called aggressive. Never mind whether it's appropriate for that to happen or for them to get restrained (however often it's actually just restraint and not the cops intentionally brutalizing someone
again), it's like people expect someone who's in a intensely stressful situation, probably being yelled at by armed people known to kill at the drop of a button, and quite likely either being hurt by them, often badly, or having it threatened, to somehow remain perfectly calm
and keep on top of basically every ounce of survival instinct that's screaming at them to either fight back or run. Somehow, when they don't bloody manage it, they get the majority of the blame.
Like. I'm not going to blame orderlies in a hospital for restraining someone that's hostile or reacting badly to whatever. Sometimes it is indeed necessary. But I'm also not going to shit on the person who's flipping out, especially if they start doing so after other folks start doing shit that's basically specifically tailored
to cause them to flip out.
And yes, that all applies to everyone involved, not just the people the cops are hurting. S'just, y'know. One side is supposed to have training, be there to reduce the harm civilians come to (though yes, I know they ruled cops have no legal mandate to help people some number of decades ago, and it hasn't changed), massively expanded breadth of legally allowed action (which is
supposed to come with equally expanded responsibility and culpability but hahaha the last ever), so on, so forth.
... though I guess it's getting better on that front, sorta'. Cops getting called more for
their half of the shit sandwiches these situations consist of, some acknowledgement of how much of a clusterfuck policing actions tend to be just due to their nature, no longer zero sympathy or understanding for the non-cops involved (if still usually not much, as evidenced by the immediate turn to character assassination media likes to jump on whenever someone gets hurt in an interaction with the police). In media, even, which would have pretty close to never happened a decade or two ago. Still not facing any bloody repercussions for it most of the time, and only some precincts are actually trying to reign themselves in, but it's a marginal improvement from 10, 20 years ago, by and large. And with the social pressure looking like it's not going to lessen until the killings and beatings do, it might actually become something reasonable in my lifetime. Maybe. In some places (though it already is in some places, for what it's worth). It'd be nice.
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