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[NivlacSupreme]

I guess but even Disney doesn't do that and they predate video games. Disney.

[nenjin]

I guess but even Disney doesn't do that and they predate video games. Disney.

Or not.

Besides, mods only begin to apply to games you actually paid for, not unlicensed games scrubbed of copyrighted material that are then put right back in by mods. It's copyright infringement any way you slice it. I don't like it but if this surprises you, you haven't been paying attention.

[NivlacSupreme]

aha but that's not a mod. have you seen how many Star Wars mods there are for so many games?

[nenjin]

aha but that's not a mod. have you seen how many Star Wars mods there are for so many games?

Again, purchased games.

[NivlacSupreme]

didn't see that bit. damn phone. really easy way to fix that bit. people start donating, artist is hired, it becomes viable to play without the mod, somebody starts up a games studio and starts charging a couple bucks for IAS 2016.

[nenjin]

When you put it like that, it's so simple.

[NivlacSupreme]

I think it is? please isn't make fun of me if I'm wrong. JUST. CORRECT. ME

[nenjin]

You can't earn money on a licensed IP prior to negotiating terms with the owners of it. If GWS were nice they might retroactively grant a license to develop the game (especially these days.) But GWS isn't nice. It's litigious as fuck.

[NivlacSupreme]

but the would just be selling a generic space game that can be modded

[nenjin]

but the would just be selling a generic space game that can be modded

And how would you pitch this to people who are supposed to support you? "Hey guys, I'm making a generic space game in the hopes GWS will grant me a license when it's a full enough game not to be laughed out of the meeting. Please donate."

Put another way it's been tried all ready, and people eventually go "Why am I putting in all this work just to court GWS? I like the lore but I should just make my own game."

There's a reason there aren't any officially licensed GWS games dev'd from people's bedrooms. GWS may be licensing more games than ever before in their history, but that doesn't mean they're going to green light one man projects. And building a team and doing work just on the chance your game might be good enough to be granted a license...doesn't keep dev teams together for long.

We've had this conversation in this thread already so many times, its a little tiresome.

[NivlacSupreme]

well sorry if I'm an idiot. and sorry if I haven't had time to trawl through the entire thread. it was tiring enough looking for the heresy mod

[milo christiansen]

What wrong with: I am making a generic space soldier game that really has nothing to do with 40K (wink wink, nudge nudge). Then "someone else" makes a 40K mod for it. Make the base game into an extremely obvious 40K parody, and a trivial "third party" mod that removes the "parody" part.

[nenjin]

What wrong with: I am making a generic space soldier game that really has nothing to do with 40K (wink wink, nudge nudge). Then "someone else" makes a 40K mod for it. Make the base game into an extremely obvious 40K parody, and a trivial "third party" mod that removes the "parody" part.

By all means, spend all that time and take all the risk. The path is littered with the bones of those that came before.

[MrWiggles]

What wrong with: I am making a generic space soldier game that really has nothing to do with 40K (wink wink, nudge nudge). Then "someone else" makes a 40K mod for it. Make the base game into an extremely obvious 40K parody, and a trivial "third party" mod that removes the "parody" part.

Its a matter of intent. You're making a game that replicate the feel, tone, of warhammer 40k, with the intent of someone else placing in all the lore and art from GW ip. Its one thing to just make a game, that can be modded. Its another thing, to make a game, that is suppose to be modded. With that model, GW could probably make a case, and if they couldnt, they can just drag you to court for lolz. For GW, they dont often care about rumination from the suit.

[LoSboccacc]

just being dragged in a court is a life changing experience for many, even if the other party doesn't have a case, because of the amount of unrecoverable debt involved.