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[Hanzoku]

Ultramar is basically a mini-Empire within the overall structure. It's probably the closest you come to finding a 'nice' place to live in W40K for the average person, assuming the Tyrannids don't come busting in.

[Il Palazzo]

Uh, how do you do those necron tomb-blowing missions? I landed some guys with the plasma bomb on the planet and nothing happened. Should I have raided or purged the planet, or what?

[Xardalas]

Uh, how do you do those necron tomb-blowing missions? I landed some guys with the plasma bomb on the planet and nothing happened. Should I have raided or purged the planet, or what?

You have to have a mission from the Inquisition to do it.

[Il Palazzo]

Yeah, I know. I failed it, as nothing happened once I got there.

[USEC_OFFICER]

(Plus I don't really think Tyranids are evil as such, they are just....hungry. However, they are bad news for everyone else and as such worst.)

This is ridiculous. humans OP pls nerf

Fun Fact: Apparently the reason that the Tyranids arrived was due to the Astronomician. The big pyshic beacon that Imperial ships use to travel 'safely' through the warp. Apparently the Tyranids are attracted to it like moths to a flame. That might have been retconned though. But if it's true, it's another thing to blame the Imperium for. Just like the creation of almost all of the Chaos faction(s). And Gods.

humans OP pls nerf

Ultramar is basically a mini-Empire within the overall structure. It's probably the closest you come to finding a 'nice' place to live in W40K for the average person, assuming the Tyrannids don't come busting in.

Eh... I'm sure that there are many other nice places to live besides Ultramar. Like a really nice agricultural world, or independent alien empire, or something. It's just that we don't hear about them since 40k is so grimdark. So either those places are never mentioned, since nothing happens to them, or they get attacked by one of the many threats in the galaxy and are no longer nice. Which says something about the universe if the best way to survive/live is to keep your head down and not be noticed.

[Frumple]

Yeah, I know. I failed it, as nothing happened once I got there.

Y'did the land-and-wait-several-turns thing?

[miauw62]

Meh, the Emperor isn't exactly evil though. He's Lawful Evil at worst and probably Lawful Neutral. Things would probably have been at least a bit better if the Emperor hadn't basically been killed.

And you can't really blame them for erecting the Astronomician, if they hadn't it would have been almost impossible to create the Empire. And don't forget that the Astronomician and the Navigators were just ment as a stopgap until an Imperial Webway could be built. But then the Horus Heresy happened.

[Il Palazzo]

Yeah, I know. I failed it, as nothing happened once I got there.

Y'did the land-and-wait-several-turns thing?

I landed five guys, one with the bomb, and waited two turns. Then the mission failed.

[Sergarr]

There were some kind of agricultural worlds that were mentioned in the context of some kind of mechas. Knight-something.

[Sinistar]

Meh, the Emperor isn't exactly evil though. He's Lawful Evil at worst and probably Lawful Neutral. Things would probably have been at least a bit better if the Emperor hadn't basically been killed.

And you can't really blame them for erecting the Astronomician, if they hadn't it would have been almost impossible to create the Empire. And don't forget that the Astronomician and the Navigators were just ment as a stopgap until an Imperial Webway could be built. But then the Horus Heresy happened.

Isn't... isn't the Emperor actually Lawful GOOD?

As in, his vision was to drag the humanity OUT of the dark ages and usher a new era of understanding and tolerance, even (especially?) towards alien races? It was just that after his semi-demise and in some specific cases even before it that his vision was at first twisted and then completely 180°'d by various over-zealous and/or downright corrupted minds?

...or was I just mislead by a filthy Gue'la propaganda? FOR GREATOR GOOD!

[miauw62]

I just said Lawful Neutral to not sound too optimistic, tbh

So basically since all of the theories about the rebirth of the emperor or w/e are retconned out, the Empire and humanity as a whole is basically entirely fucked? As far as I can see, there's not even really any hope for things to make a change for the better...

[Xardalas]

Yeah, I know. I failed it, as nothing happened once I got there.

Y'did the land-and-wait-several-turns thing?

I landed five guys, one with the bomb, and waited two turns. Then the mission failed.

Ah, I've had that happen before. Did you save after you got the mission? I've had that happen and it refuses to let me do anything relating to the mission.

[Frumple]

Isn't... isn't the Emperor actually Lawful GOOD?

As in, his vision was to drag the humanity OUT of the dark ages and usher a new era of understanding and tolerance, even (especially?) towards alien races?

Through massive amounts of violence and a galaxy wide campaign of military conquest. Lawful good, he was not. I'd peg 'im as some form of neutral, but anything from lawful to chaotic (monomaniacal focus) could possibly fit.

[Sinistar]

Ah, right, the reconquista. Fair enough. I see now that I also misread miauw62 's post, I saw just "lawful evil" and I wondered. Still wasn't it more of a "liberation" and "bringing order to anarchy" kind of conquest? Almost "for greater good" kinda, heh. Yeah, "neutral" seems most or at least more likely. IIRC he was still generally more of a progressive, tolerant kind of conquer, yes? Then again, all knowledge I have of WH40K is from occasional reading of wh40k.lexicanum  so there's that.

[a1s]

Still wasn't it more of a "liberation" and "bringing order to anarchy" kind of conquest?

That's every conquest ever. Enemies are always evil (or at least very, very wrong), backwards, or decadent.