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Author Topic: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!  (Read 808035 times)

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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #120 on: August 21, 2014, 07:41:21 pm »

Nope, no noticeable difference in battles with scouts named as lascannons, tac marines as bloodthirster or tac marines as skitarii. Tested them with lower numbers of troops, because it would be more noticeable. Got wiped by orks (the shame).

It must just be Inquisitional text parsing. Or orks are really good at taking down 50 bloodthirsters. Probably the former.

Do skitarii do anything as yet? Buying minor artifacts doesn't seem to (they don't come up as unused, but maybe they're being researched).

Oh, and fleet based starts are really nice for the extra cargo room. It just gives you a nice armoured wing in case you want to fit all your landraiders and junk on the battle barge and frees up plenty of room on the strike cruisers for the same.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #121 on: August 21, 2014, 08:14:04 pm »

the chaos tainted one has the words "RUN" "GLD" "Chaos" and the no-taint one has "DPA" "GLD"
Is there a way to know what bonus/malus an equiped artifact does as those letters does not mean much to me ?

In my experience those letters are shorthand for the description of the artifact when it was identified. "RUN," for example, means that it has runic inscriptions or the like. For most of these it's pretty much impossible to tell what that means, but I suppose that makes a certain amount of sense. Attachments like "ULB" (I think that's what it was...), however, are for more mundane bonuses-- in that case, an underlinked bolter. Other more mundane aspects include better plating, various attached weapons, etc., while the more mysterious/occult ones are stuff like "eerie blue glow."
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #122 on: August 22, 2014, 12:49:51 am »

The main thing with space combat is that if you lose even one escort it can put you back 150+ turns of requisition.  You lose all your escorts?  Have fun paying 18,000 requisition at +14 a turn.

Also if you win space combat you can use exterminatus to defeat ground enemies or at least trap them in the system, whereas if you lose space combat but still have marines your SOL.  Which makes sense of course but there's almost nothing you can do to boost your fleets while there's so much detail on the ground forces.

What the game really needs is more ability to make the IG ships help you.  Not that I really care since its early alpha but it does hurt the playability now.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #123 on: August 22, 2014, 01:03:01 am »

The thing is, in 40k lore ships are incredibly expensive and massively time-consuming to construct. These are kilometer-long battle cathedrals in space, don't forget, and many of them are ancient because few people or places have the technology or know-how to build them anymore. It makes sense from an in-universe standpoint for the loss of even a small ship to be difficult to replace.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #124 on: August 22, 2014, 01:28:41 am »

Many ships are refurnished hulks of previously destroyed ships, too. Space battles should leave behind junk you can use to repair/replace your ships or even acquire brand new ones. Not to mention boarding, which is supposed to be something marines excel in. This all ignoring the silliness of common freighters being kilometers long and crewed by thousands. WH40k is the Texas of space opera, everything is always bigger.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #125 on: August 22, 2014, 02:49:19 am »

Yea...so training new marines...it doesn't mater how many are in training, you will only get 1 scout every 66 months. Building a 9th cruiser kind of breaks the game as well. The 9th one will be there and be useable up untill you save then load, then its gone and all the marines onboard go into limbo the warp.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #126 on: August 22, 2014, 05:11:46 am »

In my experience those letters are shorthand for the description of the artifact when it was identified. "RUN," for example, means that it has runic inscriptions or the like. For most of these it's pretty much impossible to tell what that means, but I suppose that makes a certain amount of sense. Attachments like "ULB" (I think that's what it was...), however, are for more mundane bonuses-- in that case, an underlinked bolter. Other more mundane aspects include better plating, various attached weapons, etc., while the more mysterious/occult ones are stuff like "eerie blue glow."
Thanks, i have no knowledge with how the wh40k system deal with artifacts, so it's mostly cosmetic.
I wonder if there's a real difference in planetary battle made for the mundane bonuses.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #127 on: August 22, 2014, 09:58:29 am »

Thanks, i have no knowledge with how the wh40k system deal with artifacts, so it's mostly cosmetic.
I wonder if there's a real difference in planetary battle made for the mundane bonuses.

I honestly don't know too well either, but given the general setting (humanity, at least, has been in technological decline for the past 10ish MILLENIA) ignorance about what the heck these artifacts actually do makes sense. The first couple of paragraphs on master-crafted weapons (http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Master_Crafted_Weapon) at the ol' wiki gives a suitably grimdark picture.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #128 on: August 22, 2014, 10:03:35 am »

There's artifacts in the gameplay sense and in the lore sense.  In the gameplay sense there isn't a mechanic referred to as artifacts but there are some weird, unique, or almost unique pieces of wargear.  In the end most of them are not THAT strong.  In the lore sense... artifacts could be anything, up to and including a device for destroying stars.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #129 on: August 22, 2014, 11:29:23 am »

Artifact is a complex Imperial word with many meanings. First among those meanings is "Coveted by everyone." Its secondary connotation is "Likely to corrupt."
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #130 on: August 22, 2014, 11:34:09 am »

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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #131 on: August 22, 2014, 03:09:57 pm »

So I made the mistake of send men on a crusade I lost wait for it, 1st, 6th,7th,8th,9th,and 10th company. which added on the lost of tenth company earlier and 2nd company being severally depleted during a snatch and grab against Necrons, I have around 230ish marines left the 400 gene-seed in the bank during a Waagah, and a massive heretic uprising, I love this game.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #132 on: August 22, 2014, 03:24:37 pm »

At this point I've found going on a crusade while is good for getting experience, it will end up hurting you so much it isn't even funny. I once sent enough marines to come back from the crusade however still lost 400 marines. 300 turns or so later another crusade is called which I know I wouldn't be able to deal with, let alone being able to keep the sector even remotely under control.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #133 on: August 22, 2014, 06:17:00 pm »

At this point I've found going on a crusade while is good for getting experience, it will end up hurting you so much it isn't even funny. I once sent enough marines to come back from the crusade however still lost 400 marines. 300 turns or so later another crusade is called which I know I wouldn't be able to deal with, let alone being able to keep the sector even remotely under control.

Yeah, the first crusade I was called on I sent my entire forces/fleet (about 980). A little under 500 made it back... and were immediately called to another crusade. Meanwhile Several worlds had fallen to corruption and a tyranid hive fleet was lazily consuming a system. The worst part is that this would probably be pretty normal for the universe.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #134 on: August 22, 2014, 06:40:13 pm »

Looks interesting as fuck. Can't wait till I get my laptop back to try it.
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