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Author Topic: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.  (Read 208652 times)

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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #780 on: November 01, 2015, 04:37:12 am »
You also have the hypothesis that mechanical failure brought the plane low enough for ISIS to shoot it down of course. But then, this is far-fetched too.
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #781 on: November 01, 2015, 06:45:57 pm »
Quote from: Loud Whispers on November 01, 2015, 12:57:18 am
Quote from: Zangi on October 31, 2015, 01:32:09 pm
Quote from: Loud Whispers on October 30, 2015, 07:28:03 pm
The alternative is do nothing and let Syria turn into worse Somalia
I thought that was pretty much what we were doing the whole time...
Openly, excluding all aid and "advisers"
Or by propping up one of the sides enough that they could drag the fighting on longer and/or strong enough to take the fighting to where the civilians are in a much larger scale otherwise.
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #782 on: November 01, 2015, 06:57:54 pm »
Quote from: Zangi on November 01, 2015, 06:45:57 pm
Quote from: Loud Whispers on November 01, 2015, 12:57:18 am
Quote from: Zangi on October 31, 2015, 01:32:09 pm
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The alternative is do nothing and let Syria turn into worse Somalia
I thought that was pretty much what we were doing the whole time...
Openly, excluding all aid and "advisers"
Or by propping up one of the sides enough that they could drag the fighting on longer and/or strong enough to take the fighting to where the civilians are in a much larger scale otherwise.
As opposed to obliterating all sides?
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #783 on: November 01, 2015, 07:50:39 pm »
Posting to Jihad.
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #784 on: November 24, 2015, 08:29:54 am »
Turkey brought down a Russian Su24.

Not saying the next big war's a coming, but I wouldn't sell your ammunition stock just yet.
  http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/11/turkey-shoots-warplane-syria-border-151124081519290.html
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #785 on: November 24, 2015, 08:41:44 am »
Yeah it's being discussed in the non EU Europe thread.
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #786 on: November 24, 2015, 01:22:13 pm »
This seems like a more reasonable place to discuss it though, given it being a Syria issue.
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #787 on: November 24, 2015, 01:27:11 pm »
I wasn't aware that Syria was in Iraq. :P
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #788 on: November 24, 2015, 02:52:41 pm »
If there's American A teams running around in the general area, it probably qualifies as being back in Iraq, I think.

And Syria issues are certainly Isil issues as well.
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #789 on: November 29, 2015, 10:21:04 am »
Kurdish fighters report to have once again uncovered mass graves of killed Jezidis in the northern Iraq region of Sinjar. 113 bodies were found that have likely been the victims of mass execution. Jezidis are the minority group that initally convinced western forces to intervene military, back when they were trapped on a mountain.
IS views them as devil-worshippers, and will kill any Jezidi that is not a virgin girl.

If that wasn't gruesome enough, one of the mass graves they found was boobytrapped with explosives below the bodies. Fortunatly they were discovered and disarmed by the Kurds.

So apparently IS is twisted enough to boobytrap mass graves. Having some trouble getting rid of the mental image of rotten bodyparts flying everywhere now.
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #790 on: November 29, 2015, 10:28:49 am »
Source pls
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #791 on: November 29, 2015, 10:57:14 am »
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #792 on: November 29, 2015, 11:01:07 am »
Interesting article by a person who was the first western journalist to spend time with Isis back in 2014.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/27/bomb-isis-west-learned-nothign-from-war-terror-defeat-muslim-world-equal-partner

In one of interview he said, that the main ways ISIS is getting its arms is from turkey and the so called moderate rebels that west is supporting.

Also

NATO is harbouring the Islamic State
Why France’s brave new war on ISIS is a sick joke, and an insult to the victims of the Paris attacks
https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/europe-is-harbouring-the-islamic-state-s-backers-d24db3a24a40#.p9evcid8d
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #793 on: November 29, 2015, 11:12:00 am »
Give the Kurds everything they need when?
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Re: The Let's go back to Iraq, now without WMDs Thread. About the IS(IS) threat.
« Reply #794 on: November 29, 2015, 11:18:14 am »
Not before Turkey leaves NATO I think.
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