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[iceball3]

So wait...my tactic of distracting the GCS by having it gnaw uselessly on the Captain of the Guard's steel helmeted head until the rest of the squad turn up might not work any more?

- The giant cave spider carefully removes the swordsdwarf's pants helmet...

Personally, I'd be kind of against non-intelligent creatures pulling something like this off. If anything, though, you'd think a GCS or other creatures would just start biting random body parts after a few glancing blows to the head.

[Random_Dragon]

So wait...my tactic of distracting the GCS by having it gnaw uselessly on the Captain of the Guard's steel helmeted head until the rest of the squad turn up might not work any more?

- The giant cave spider carefully removes the swordsdwarf's pants helmet...

Personally, I'd be kind of against non-intelligent creatures pulling something like this off. If anything, though, you'd think a GCS or other creatures would just start biting random body parts after a few glancing blows to the head.

Actually, that brings up a good point.

What led to you adding the "NPCs can remove enemy helmets" idea instead of targetting other bodyparts? Especially since both would presumably be triggered by enough ineffectual head strikes, was there a specific reason you decided to implement that instead of something simpler like a "target some other part" mechanic?

[Shonai_Dweller]

So wait...my tactic of distracting the GCS by having it gnaw uselessly on the Captain of the Guard's steel helmeted head until the rest of the squad turn up might not work any more?

- The giant cave spider carefully removes the swordsdwarf's pants helmet...

Personally, I'd be kind of against non-intelligent creatures pulling something like this off. If anything, though, you'd think a GCS or other creatures would just start biting random body parts after a few glancing blows to the head.

Actually, that brings up a good point.

What led to you adding the "NPCs can remove enemy helmets" idea instead of targetting other bodyparts? Especially since both would presumably be triggered by enough ineffectual head strikes, was there a specific reason you decided to implement that instead of something simpler like a "target some other part" mechanic?

Because targetting other armoured body parts would result in an endless fight. The point is enemies can now come completely armoured. And while it would be amusing for goblins to rip off a dorfs pants half way through a fight, the helmet kind of makes more sense, don't you think?

[peasant cretin]

As armor stripping is being added, might that also mean weapon using NPCs would be capable of wrestling attacks? Currently this is not so if NPC is in possession of a weapon. Default is attack with weapon, punch or kick.

[Witty]

What are the requirements for an opponent to remove helmets? Does the creature in question need to be intelligent, or can large predators remove helmets as well?

[Mr S]

What are the requirements for an opponent to remove helmets? Does the creature in question need to be intelligent, or can large predators remove helmets as well?

To Witty, and others, there is a partial answer to this in the devblog.  It seems that unintelligent creatures will not be pulling off helmets. The removal of helmets is specifically mentioned for unconscious opponents.

Note also, importantly, the mention of neck/joint damage. So, an unintelligent creature spam attacking a helmeted dwarf's head may just result in death by broken neck.

As a side effect of this, we should do !!SCIENCE!! on whether Coinstar training rooms now become potentially deadly.

[mifki]

nvm.

[Dirst]

And what about OS X and Linux? GCC 4.5 is quite ancient. Do you own a Mac or how do you build for OS X? Also letting you know that unlike other platforms there's no need to support both 32/64bit versions for OS X, as there are no separate 32/64bit version of the OS and the only hardware not capable of running 64bit binaries is from about 2006.

Every time this topic comes up, my trusty old VIC-20 cries

[Random_Dragon]

Because targetting other armoured body parts would result in an endless fight. The point is enemies can now come completely armoured. And while it would be amusing for goblins to rip off a dorfs pants half way through a fight, the helmet kind of makes more sense, don't you think?

Isn't the throat always exposed though? >_>

[Shonai_Dweller]

Because targetting other armoured body parts would result in an endless fight. The point is enemies can now come completely armoured. And while it would be amusing for goblins to rip off a dorfs pants half way through a fight, the helmet kind of makes more sense, don't you think?

Isn't the throat always exposed though? >_>

Is it? Ha ha. Time for some throat armour.
Well anyway,  necks and throats will nicely smashed up by hard blows to the head after the update, so no need to aim there.

[PatrikLundell]

@Mr S: Coinstars went potentially deadly more than a year and a half ago when coins actually started hitting. I disabled mine rather quickly after that update, although the damages at that point were limited to a number of cases of broken bones.

[Dirst]

@Mr S: Coinstars went potentially deadly more than a year and a half ago when coins actually started hitting. I disabled mine rather quickly after that update, although the damages at that point were limited to a number of cases of broken bones.

Equipping and training a militia is a complex socioeconomic undertaking in a highly detailed fantasy simulation.  Of course you can't solve it by simply throwing money at the problem

[Cormack]

Are there any plans to improve how sites look any time soon? I like the new features but I think that it is most important to make world look plausible before adding something new to it.

Towns look really bad now, there are no homes where people would actually live, and existing buildings look not realistic at all. The keep is nothing but a buidling with one throne inside, no rooms for the lord or his guards to live in, no royal bureaucrats, no dungeons, just several towers with nobody in them. Taverns are especially bad - there are a couple of tables and chairs are clustered in one part of the building while the rest is empty. There are usually about 2 rooms. There are dozens of merchants coming to the town and only two rooms for them. There are usually no guests, and in towns no tavern owners. There are no granaries, no wells, no walls, no town guards.

Dwarf fortresses are very bad too - although there are a lot of rooms for dwarfs to sleep in, they spend all day in a meeting area and sleep there too. There are no military barracks, no guards keeping watch, taverns look as bad as in towns, there are no temples or libraries, no place to eat food properly with tables and chairs and kitchens. Sometimes their rooms lack beds too, and the corridors seem to be a maze instead of as efficient as possible.

Villages look very small and lack life entirely. There are no fields or farm animals at all.

Dwarf fortress looks really fine now, it is mostly realistic and plausible, but the adv mode seems unrealistic and lacks life. Surely, there are many villagers, but they do nothing at all - they never even sleep in their beds, just stand in one place.

I really like that there are new features, but I humbly believe that it is the world that needs fixing first. I want it to look realistic.

[Max™]

I see tavern keepers, town and fortress guards, I see temples, world-gen fort libraries, houses, guard patrols, villagers wander around doing things... are you on 43.03?

I agree that world-gen forts are a problem, the way everyone wants to rush up or down the rampspiral every time you load it is what finally made me eliminate them (well, that and my early bad luck at finding libraries) in favor of having humans and dorfs build towns/hamlets.

I see field plots, livestock, all that sort of stuff.

How many worlds have you played around in, how large are they, how old are they, how big are these towns? Have you found a masterwork symbol town which seemed dead and lifeless and wasn't actually in ruins?

[Nahere]

Wells and walls in particular have been around since 0.31 ish.