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[LordBaal]

...a night creature that had wandered into a shop and killed the owner... the creature then somehow got assigned as the owner. The crash happened when the night creature tried to come up with things to say to potential shoppers, since it didn't have a civilization as a frame of reference. I fixed that part...

I imagine him... "oh! new costumers, and I didn't even finished eating the last owner, it's all a mess, I hope they don't notice... now... what do I say... hi... welcome, what can I... aghhh.... this is too hard!"

By fixed I hope you mean we have awesome daemons and werewolves running shops in a extremely baffling and amicable way...

[Dirst]

...a night creature that had wandered into a shop and killed the owner... the creature then somehow got assigned as the owner. The crash happened when the night creature tried to come up with things to say to potential shoppers, since it didn't have a civilization as a frame of reference. I fixed that part...

I imagine him... "oh! new costumers, and I didn't even finished eating the last owner, it's all a mess, I hope they don't notice... now... what do I say... hi... welcome, what can I... aghhh.... this is too hard!"

By fixed I hope you mean we have awesome daemons and werewolves running shops in a extremely baffling and amicable way...

Surprisingly, this is not a new problem.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[smjjames]

...a night creature that had wandered into a shop and killed the owner... the creature then somehow got assigned as the owner. The crash happened when the night creature tried to come up with things to say to potential shoppers, since it didn't have a civilization as a frame of reference. I fixed that part...

I imagine him... "oh! new costumers, and I didn't even finished eating the last owner, it's all a mess, I hope they don't notice... now... what do I say... hi... welcome, what can I... aghhh.... this is too hard!"

By fixed I hope you mean we have awesome daemons and werewolves running shops in a extremely baffling and amicable way...

Surprisingly, this is not a new problem.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

What movie is that clip from?

[Frogging101]

...a night creature that had wandered into a shop and killed the owner... the creature then somehow got assigned as the owner. The crash happened when the night creature tried to come up with things to say to potential shoppers, since it didn't have a civilization as a frame of reference. I fixed that part...

I imagine him... "oh! new costumers, and I didn't even finished eating the last owner, it's all a mess, I hope they don't notice... now... what do I say... hi... welcome, what can I... aghhh.... this is too hard!"

By fixed I hope you mean we have awesome daemons and werewolves running shops in a extremely baffling and amicable way...

Surprisingly, this is not a new problem.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

What movie is that clip from?

The Terminator (1984)

[CaptainArchmage]

New devlog, I see:

All breeding also occurs within touch range now, though there isn't a new activity for it or anything. Some more tools for breeding and animal population control are now in place. Due to the raw changes, it won't be available in old saves without tweaking the raws.

Wonder if this is going to change things for dwarves too?

Today saw the addition of an oft-requested feature -- the ability to geld! We stayed away from new parts, but there's a body part tag for it on appropriate male critters, as well as a job and so on. The job takes place at the farmer's workshop after the animal is designated in a way similar to slaughtering. The process is modeled with a wound within the existing framework.

This may have some interesting results in combat.

[Putnam]

Nah, it just means that certain lower body wounds will cause sterility. It'll be more interesting for mods that add important parts.

[smjjames]

Nah, it just means that certain lower body wounds will cause sterility. It'll be more interesting for mods that add important parts.

Can a random lower body wound inflicted through combat or other cause, cause sterility now?

That is, is it possible via random chance to induce sterility outside of the gelding interaction (since it works via a wound) or is it only possible to achieve the sterility via the gelding interaction?


Hey, someone has to ask, lol.

Edit: added some clarification. The answer is probably no, but it's still a valid question.

[Zarathustra30]

Will the gelding reaction be automated? If not, why?

Edit: I mean, will there be a way to automatically designate a certain species/cast, or will we have to be on the ball?

[Putnam]

Will the gelding reaction be automated? If not, why?

The job takes place at the farmer's workshop after the animal is designated in a way similar to slaughtering.

Unless by "not automated" you mean "there's a little minigame".

[Mel_Vixen]

will the removed parts be *ahem* ready for consummation after the fact?

Also a werewolf should regenerate those too right?

Are there any behaviorchanges planned in the future to accommodate the new breeding? Like males going activly after females?

[Cobbler89]

Let me see if I've got this straight... I can neuter my cats now, or be humane and simply keep them in separate rooms?

Catsplosion: another casualty of the gradual improvements in the Fortress.

...a night creature that had wandered into a shop and killed the owner... the creature then somehow got assigned as the owner. The crash happened when the night creature tried to come up with things to say to potential shoppers, since it didn't have a civilization as a frame of reference. I fixed that part...

I imagine him... "oh! new costumers, and I didn't even finished eating the last owner, it's all a mess, I hope they don't notice... now... what do I say... hi... welcome, what can I... aghhh.... this is too hard!"

By fixed I hope you mean we have awesome daemons and werewolves running shops in a extremely baffling and amicable way...

Surprisingly, this is not a new problem.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

What movie is that clip from?

The Terminator (1984)

Urist McJunker wonders, "Why do the Snatchers only attack at night?"

[Eric Blank]

If we add a geldable tag to female critters, will this in turn allow specific females to be sterilized?

Does the new breeding mechanic play nice with egg-laying critters?
Females spend nearly their entire adult lives on the nest box, because if one clutch is gathered late or hatches she will instantly lay another clutch in that same box, and they can't have other creatures sharing rooms with them because if one of those extras steps on her nest box tile she will get disturbed and the eggs die. Because of this, every other clutch dies because when one clutch hatches the female immediately lays a second, and the hatchlings immediately disturb her and thus kill the eggs, and the player must micro-manage egg layers pastures to get them to breed at a reasonable rate, which means only females, or only one female, per pasture. But with this mechanic, a male must share a room with egg-laying females, correct? Otherwise fertilization will never occur. But then the male must immediately be removed...

[Knight Otu]

will the removed parts be *ahem* ready for consummation after the fact?

No. There are no parts.

Also a werewolf should regenerate those too right?

Transformation cures all wounds, neutering is a wound, so they should recover from neutering - not that I expect either weres or civilized creatures to be eligible for gelding.

Are there any behaviorchanges planned in the future to accommodate the new breeding? Like males going activly after females?

Presumably there are plans, but likely there is no timeline.

[Farmerbob]

Hrm,

This has the potential to cause some very strong emotional reactions in sentients.

Can dwarves or other sentients be neutered intentionally by the player?

If so, when a dwarf or other sentient is neutered, will it cause appropriate bad thoughts?

If both of these things have been considered, will neutered dwarves or sentients seek out lycanthropy or other potential magical cures?

If I neuter all the elves in a trade caravan, will their civilization declare war on my dwarves?

[smjjames]

I wonder if Toady One realizes the can of worms opened here, heh.