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[lemon10]

There is something that is significantly bothering me about the Danes: There is literally no reason for them to now build anything but Knights, Galleons, and Carracks (and a catapult or two if they are planning on sieging a city). While NQT hasn't quite been doing this (since he is still throwing some halberdiers in), it is clearly the optimal path. This bugs me, because having the Danes have an incentive to throw different unit types at us (or at least making it not quite so clear cut).

I have a few proposals to fix this:
1) Spawning higher tier units costs money on the turn they are spawned in:
3 money for a Knight/Mounted Crossbowmen/Galleon/Carrack.
1 money for a Halberdier/Crossbowman.
Everything else is free (excluding upkeep).

2) Spawning units cost points, of which the Danes get a fixed amount of per turn: They would get 120 global points to spend as they please, and 60 points max they could spend on a single player per turn. The points would not carry over between turns.
The costs would be:
3.5 for a Knight/Mounted Crossbowmen
3 for a Galleon/Carrack.
2 for a Halberdier/Crossbowman.
1.5 for Swordsmen/Lancers/Calvary Archers.
1 for Axemen/Pikemen/Horsemen/Horse Archers.
0.5 for Galleys.
Barges, Bowmen, and Spearmen are free.

This would limit their maximum attack per turn pretty significantly, but they can still spawn quite large armies in a single turn, and over two turns can build up a quite significant army offshore without much difficulty.

3) Add a small resource cost per horseman/galleon/carrack to that the production of these even offmap is limited.
1 horse per Knights/Mounted Crossbowmen spawned offmap.
2 wood per Galleon/Carrack spawned offmap.

Personally, I think that if any (or all) of these were implemented it would greatly increase the incentive for the Danes to not simply mass spawn knights.
My personal favorite of these is #2 (and #1 or #3 thrown in to make simple horse raiding more expensive). Anyone have any they would like implemented, or any they are actively against?

Varee: If you split up the FRU into small groups of 2 units each, you could clear out 11 (counting the wessex mounted crossbowmen) of them without much risk (although if the stormhooves move out as a group they might kill one of your 2 large stacks). This isn't perfect, but it would cut down their income to like 15 or so (assuming that Zanz kills raiding one and raiding two for you).

E: A bump to Varee and Zanz as well.

[notquitethere]

I can see where you're coming from-- but I'm thinking that after the next big push in 3 turns time, I'll forgo offshore reinforcements entirely. The game is easier to balance when everyone's playing by (more or less) the same rules. Also, the more restrictions and rules to apply, the longer the turn takes to update and the greater the chance of making a mistake.

[lemon10]

Its been significantly over a week already. Come on Zanz and Varee.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

I keep coming back to the turn, and that one ship could go to so many of my cities.  I'm going to have to divide my forces among all four of them in range.

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[lemon10]

Its been nearly two weeks, and despite numerous bumps, Varee hasn't posted his turn yet. Does anyone have any objections to him being autoed for this turn? Or should we wait a few more days and hope that he will post his turn?

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Its been nearly two weeks, and despite numerous bumps, Varee hasn't posted his turn yet. Does anyone have any objections to him being autoed for this turn? Or should we wait a few more days and hope that he will post his turn?

Anyone try pming him?  There's the possibility that the bumps to the thread may have been lost in other topics.

[lemon10]

Its been nearly two weeks, and despite numerous bumps, Varee hasn't posted his turn yet. Does anyone have any objections to him being autoed for this turn? Or should we wait a few more days and hope that he will post his turn?

Anyone try pming him?  There's the possibility that the bumps to the thread may have been lost in other topics.

I PM'ed him on the 31st with a reminder.

Also, if someone does auto his turn, whoever runs it will need to know if you are planning on killing those catapults down south, or if Varee's troops will have to clear them out.

E: A PM to him from someone else (ideally NQT) might be more effective since I am typically the one spamming bumps at everyone, so I'm easier to ignore at this point.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Also, if someone does auto his turn, whoever runs it will need to know if you are planning on killing those catapults down south, or if Varee's troops will have to clear them out.

I'm killing them.

[Varee]

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sry I thought I already post my turn....... also how does walking into unit work? I feel like the unit the is walking the furtherest is going to walk into the closest unit and battle so they wont reach the further units.....

[notquitethere]

Super! Will update turn as soon as I can (probably in an hour or two).

[notquitethere]

Spoiler: 878 AD (click to show/hide)

Ireland:

83 food used to gain 1 free population
84 food used to gain 1 free population
Bank built in Irada
Knights raised in Bréanainn
Cavalry Yard built in Abbeyvale
Bank built in Aerngil
Cavern Mines built in Babbleton
Castlebar grows to size 5
Cathair Dónall grows to size 3
Smithy built in Ranson
Library built in Sligo
Barracks built in Narsis
Carrack raised in Windermere
Galleon raised in New York
Galleon (472) moved to Grand Irish Fleet
Galleon (574) moved to Grand Irish Fleet
Galleon (407) moved to Grand Irish Fleet
Galleon (473) moved to Grand Irish Fleet
Galleon (573) moved to Grand Irish Fleet
Galleon (587) moved to Grand Irish Fleet
Galleon (204) renamed to 1st Irish Galleon
Galleon (174) renamed to 2nd Irish Galleon
Galleon (220) renamed to 3rd Irish Galleon
Galleon (226) renamed to 4th Irish Galleon
Galleon (271) renamed to 5th Irish Galleon
Galleon (270) renamed to 6th Irish Galleon
Galleon (472) renamed to 7th Irish Galleon
Galleon (574) renamed to 8th Irish Galleon
Galleon (407) renamed to 9th Irish Galleon
Galleon (473) renamed to 10th Irish Galleon
Galleon (573) renamed to 11th Irish Galleon
Galleon (587) renamed to 12th Irish Galleon
Galleon (712) moved to Ferry
Army Ireland army 628 created
Ireland army 628 renamed to Ferry
Carrack (673) moved to Ferry
Galleon (712) moved to Ferry
Ferry renamed to Irish Reinforcements
Army Ireland army 629 created
Galleon (712) moved to Ireland army 629
3rd Navy is empty and is disbanded
Ireland army 629 moves to (15,15)
Ferry moves to (18,16)
Ireland army 613 moves to (10,22)
Irish Reinforcements moves to (10,22)
Ireland army 612 moves to (10,22)
Battle fought at (5,25):
   Grand Irish Fleet attacking (12 units)
   Burning Redux, Ships, North, South defending (8 units)
   Black Flagship destroyed
   12th Irish Galleon destroyed
   Galleon (805) destroyed
   Galleon (806) destroyed
   Blue Flagship destroyed
   Galleon (804) destroyed
   Red Flagship destroyed
   Galleon (807) destroyed
   Galleon (803) destroyed
   Attackers win


Mercia:

62 food used to gain 1 free population
Farm built at (26,22)
Road built at (21,25)
Road built at (23,26)
City Leeds built at (26,20)
Road built at (22,27)
Road built at (28,26)
Fortress built in Manchester
Library built in Bridlington
Granary built in Colchester
Military Academy built in Nottingham
Mounted Crossbowmen raised in Lincoln
Apothecary built in Sheffield
Mounted Crossbowmen raised in Birmingham
Halberdiers (772) moved to Mercia army 583
Mercia army 583 renamed to Manchester Garrison
Halberdiers (773) renamed to Mercian Nobles
Halberdiers (772) renamed to Mercian Royals
Halberdiers (810) renamed to Mercian Linesmen
Halberdiers (811) renamed to Mercian Knightbanes
Mercia army 582 disbanded
Mercia army 615 moves to (23,26)
Manchester Garrison moves to (23,24)
New Mercian Army moves to (26,22)
Mercia army 614 moves to (25,26)
Wales has razed your village on (21,23)!


Wessex:

48 food used to gain 1 free population
48 food used to gain 1 free population
Bore grows to size 5
Engineer's Guild built in Lampang
Library built in Bob Your uncle
Mounted Crossbowmen raised in Winchester
Swordsmen raised in Londinium
Swordsmen raised in Center plain
Galleon raised in Southern Trek
Galleon raised in Shorine
Army Wessex army 642 created
Army Wessex army 643 created
Army Wessex army 644 created
Army Wessex army 645 created
Army Wessex army 646 created
Army Wessex army 647 created
Army Wessex army 648 created
Army Wessex army 649 created
Army Wessex army 650 created
Army Wessex army 651 created
Egberty II moved to Wessex army 642
Legacy of Egbert moved to Wessex army 642
K.K.K. moved to Wessex army 643
Megellan moved to Wessex army 643
Kinsher moved to Wessex army 644
Mogana moved to Wessex army 644
Kornfled moved to Wessex army 645
Mounted Crossbowmen (209) moved to Wessex army 645
Mounted Crossbowmen (279) moved to Wessex army 646
Knights (243) moved to Wessex army 646
Mounted Crossbowmen (364) moved to Wessex army 647
Lancers (72) moved to Wessex army 647
Mounted Crossbowmen (476) moved to Wessex army 648
Mounted Crossbowmen (590) moved to Wessex army 648
Mounted Crossbowmen (576) moved to Wessex army 649
Mounted Crossbowmen (589) moved to Wessex army 649
Army Wessex army 652 created
Mounted Crossbowmen (408) moved to Wessex army 650
Mounted Crossbowmen (426) moved to Wessex army 650
Army Wessex army 653 created
Mounted Crossbowmen (260) moved to Wessex army 653
Cavalry Archers (198) moved to Wessex army 653
Mounted Crossbowmen (814) moved to Wessex army 585
Wessex army 618 is empty and is disbanded
Wessex army 651 is empty and is disbanded
Wessex army 652 is empty and is disbanded
Battle fought at (28,32):
   Wessex army 644 attacking (2 units)
   Horse J defending (1 units) with defense bonus 25%
   Knights (735) destroyed
   Attackers win
Battle fought at (29,35):
   Wessex army 653 attacking (2 units)
   Raidinghoofs defending (1 units) with defense bonus 25%
   Loki destroyed
   Attackers win
Battle fought at (29,32):
   Wessex army 650 attacking (2 units)
   Horse F defending (1 units)
   Knights (731) destroyed
   Attackers win
Battle fought at (30,31):
   Wessex army 649 attacking (2 units)
   Horse D defending (1 units)
   Knights (729) destroyed
   Attackers win
Wessex army 648 moves to (30,31)
Battle fought at (30,32):
   Wessex army 647 attacking (2 units)
   Horse E defending (1 units)
   Knights (730) destroyed
   Attackers win
Battle fought at (29,33):
   Wessex army 646 attacking (2 units)
   Horse K defending (1 units) with defense bonus 50%
   Knights (721) destroyed
   Attackers win
Wessex army 645 moves to (28,32)
Wessex army 642 moves to (29,32)
Battle fought at (27,32):
   Wessex FRU attacking (2 units)
   Horse O defending (1 units)
   Knights (725) destroyed
   Attackers win
Wessex army 616 moves to (31,36)
Battle fought at (22,36):
   Wessex army 584 attacking (1 units)
   Wales army 640 defending (1 units) with defense bonus 25%
   Mounted Crossbowmen (774) destroyed
   Defenders win
Battle fought at (30,34):
   Crisis attacking (2 units)
   Horse M defending (1 units)
   Knights (723) destroyed
   Attackers win
Battle fought at (28,31):
   Wessex army 585 attacking (2 units)
   Horse I defending (1 units)
   Knights (734) destroyed
   Attackers win
Battle fought at (22,35):
   Wessex army 617 attacking (1 units)
   Wales army 639 defending (1 units) with defense bonus 25%
   Mounted Crossbowmen (813) destroyed
   Defenders win
Battle fought at (30,30):
   Horse H attacking (1 units)
   Wessex army 564 defending (1 units) with defense bonus 25%
   Bowmen (580) destroyed
   Attackers win
Battle fought at (28,31):
   Stormhooves attacking (4 units)
   Wessex army 585 defending (2 units)
   Mounted Crossbowmen (775) destroyed
   Mounted Crossbowmen (814) destroyed
   Attackers win
Battle fought at (26,31):
   Horse N attacking (1 units)
   Wessex army 479 defending (2 units) with defense bonus 75%
   Bowmen (581) destroyed
   Bowmen (593) destroyed
   Attackers win
Battle fought at (26,34):
   Horse L attacking (1 units)
   Wessex army 661 defending (1 units) with defense bonus 75%
   Knights (722) destroyed
   Defenders win
Danes has razed your village on (31,31)!
Danes has razed your village on (32,30)!
Danes has razed your village on (31,30)!
Danes has razed your village on (29,30)!
Danes has razed your village on (28,30)!


Wales:

Tile (14,36) claimed
Knights raised in Haverfordwest
Mounted Crossbowmen raised in Lampeter
Mounted Crossbowmen raised in Wrexham
Training Field built in Almwch
Granary built in Keighley
Hanging Gardens built in Castercliff
Military Academy built in Machynlleth
University built in Cardiff
Army Wales army 638 created
Army Wales army 639 created
Army Wales army 640 created
1st Wrexham Knights moved to Wales army 638
2nd Wrexham Knights moved to Wales army 639
3rd Wrexham Knights moved to Wales army 640
Army Wales army 641 created
1st Lampeter Knights moved to Wales army 641
Crossbowmen (815) moved to Machynlleth Garrison
3rd Lampeter Knights moved to Wales army 562
4th Lampeter Knights moved to Wales army 562
Mounted Crossbowmen (533) moved to Wales army 619
Mounted Crossbowmen (583) moved to Wales army 619
Knights (534) moved to Wales army 619
Mounted Crossbowmen (533) moved to Wales army 619
2nd Lampeter Knights moved to Wales army 562
3rd Lampeter Knights moved to Wales army 562
Gruffydd ap Cyngen moved to Wales army 619
4th Lampeter Knights moved to Wales army 619
2nd Lampeter Knights moved to Wales army 619
3rd Lampeter Knights moved to Wales army 619
4th Machynlleth Crossbowmen moved to Machynlleth Garrison
3rd Machynlleth Crossbowmen moved to Machynlleth Garrison
2nd Machynlleth Crossbowmen moved to Machynlleth Garrison
2nd Machynlleth Blades moved to Machynlleth Garrison
1st Machynlleth Axemen moved to Machynlleth Garrison
1st Machynlleth Blades moved to Machynlleth Garrison
1st Machynlleth Crossbowmen moved to Machynlleth Garrison
Mounted Crossbowmen (430) moved to Wales army 619
Mounted Crossbowmen (816) moved to Wales army 589
Wales army 562 is empty and is disbanded
Wales army 620 is empty and is disbanded
Wales army 641 moves to (13,37)
Battle fought at (22,36):
   Wales army 640 attacking (1 units)
   Raiding 3 defending (1 units) with defense bonus 25%
   Catapult (687) destroyed
   Attackers win
Battle fought at (22,35):
   Wales army 639 attacking (1 units)
   Raiding 2 defending (1 units) with defense bonus 25%
   Catapult (686) destroyed
   Attackers win
Battle fought at (18,35):
   Wales army 619 attacking (8 units)
   Raiding 1 defending (1 units)
   Catapult (685) destroyed
   Attackers win
Wales army 589 moves to (15,30)
Wales army 516 moves to (19,30)
Wales army 588 moves to (18,35)
Wales army 621 moves to (21,23)
Battle fought at (22,36):
   Wessex army 584 attacking (1 units)
   Wales army 640 defending (1 units) with defense bonus 25%
   Mounted Crossbowmen (774) destroyed
   Defenders win
Battle fought at (22,35):
   Wessex army 617 attacking (1 units)
   Wales army 639 defending (1 units) with defense bonus 25%
   Mounted Crossbowmen (813) destroyed
   Defenders win
Wales army 638 has conquered Lyme Regis!
   Population reduced to 2
Borderwatch has razed Mercia's village on (21,23)!


Pictland:

67 food used to gain 1 free population
Tile (20,2) claimed
Tile (22,1) claimed
Knights raised in Fort Montane
Knights raised in Caern Michaels
Master Blacksmiths built in Macleston
Foundry built in Whitehaven
Swordsmen (819) renamed to Foot Retainer
Foot Retainer moved to Montane Garrison
Pictland army 623 disbanded
Swordsmen (818) renamed to Foot Retainers
Foot Retainers moved to Macleston Garrison
Pictland army 622 disbanded
Army Pictland army 627 created
Pictland army 627 renamed to Vanguard
Mac Conniston Familia moved to Vanguard
Mac Alistair Familia moved to Vanguard
Mac Fergusa Familia moved to Vanguard
Battle fought at (19,8):
   Vanguard attacking (3 units)
   Riding Club defending (1 units) with defense bonus 50%
   Fresh Meat destroyed
   Attackers win
Battle fought at (18,7):
   Kings Guard attacking (10 units)
   Slash & Burn defending (1 units) with defense bonus 50%
   Gunnar destroyed
   Attackers win
Lone Warship moves to (27,7)
Macleston Garrison moves to (23,7)
Danes has razed your village on (23,3)!
Danes has razed your village on (22,6)!


Danes:

14 food used to gain 1 free population
Tile (31,28) claimed
Galleon raised in Conniston
Lyme Regis shrinks to size 3
Smithy built in King's Lynn
Lancers raised in Cambridge
Knights raised in Mott Fergusa
Aberaeron shrinks to size 4
Army Danes army 630 created
Danes army 630 renamed to Ester
Ester Abildgaard moved to Ester
Army Danes army 631 created
Danes army 631 renamed to Nos Da Gang
Galleon (746) moved to Nos Da Gang
Knights (747) moved to Nos Da Gang
Catapult (748) moved to Nos Da Gang
Halberdiers (749) moved to Nos Da Gang
Galleon (750) moved to Nos Da Gang
Knights (751) moved to Nos Da Gang
Catapult (752) moved to Nos Da Gang
Halberdiers (753) moved to Nos Da Gang
Galleon (754) moved to Nos Da Gang
Catapult (755) moved to Nos Da Gang
Catapult (759) moved to Nos Da Gang
Catapult (765) moved to Nos Da Gang
Catapult (769) moved to Nos Da Gang
Knights (747) moved to Odds & Sods
Knights (751) moved to Odds & Sods
Halberdiers (757) moved to Nos Da Gang
Army Danes army 632 created
Danes army 632 renamed to Ships
Army Danes army 633 created
Danes army 633 renamed to North
Red Flagship moved to Ships
Black Flagship moved to Ships
Blue Flagship moved to Ships
Galleon (803) moved to Ships
Galleon (804) moved to Ships
Galleon (805) moved to Ships
Galleon (806) moved to Ships
Galleon (807) moved to Ships
Army Danes army 634 created
Danes army 634 renamed to East
Army Danes army 635 created
Danes army 635 renamed to Northeast
Knights (783) moved to North
Knights (784) moved to North
Knights (785) moved to East
Knights (786) moved to East
Knights (787) moved to Northeast
Knights (788) moved to Northeast
Army Danes army 636 created
Danes army 636 renamed to South
Knights (799) moved to South
Knights (788) moved to North
Knights (787) moved to North
Northeast disbanded
Knights (785) moved to Burning Redux
Knights (786) moved to Burning Redux
East disbanded
Knights (783) moved to Burning Redux
Knights (784) moved to Burning Redux
Knights (787) moved to Burning Redux
Knights (790) moved to North
Army Danes army 637 created
Danes army 637 renamed to East
Slakeskin moved to North
Knights (789) moved to North
Knights (797) moved to East
Knights (798) moved to East
Knights (785) moved to East
Knights (786) moved to East
Knights (783) moved to East
Knights (784) moved to East
Knights (787) moved to North
Knights (797) moved to North
Knights (798) moved to North
Knights (785) moved to North
Knights (786) moved to North
Knights (783) moved to North
Knights (784) moved to North
East disbanded
Battle fought at (22,36):
   Wales army 640 attacking (1 units)
   Raiding 3 defending (1 units) with defense bonus 25%
   Catapult (687) destroyed
   Attackers win
Battle fought at (22,35):
   Wales army 639 attacking (1 units)
   Raiding 2 defending (1 units) with defense bonus 25%
   Catapult (686) destroyed
   Attackers win
Battle fought at (18,35):
   Wales army 619 attacking (8 units)
   Raiding 1 defending (1 units)
   Catapult (685) destroyed
   Attackers win
Battle fought at (19,8):
   Vanguard attacking (3 units)
   Riding Club defending (1 units) with defense bonus 50%
   Fresh Meat destroyed
   Attackers win
Battle fought at (18,7):
   Kings Guard attacking (10 units)
   Slash & Burn defending (1 units) with defense bonus 50%
   Gunnar destroyed
   Attackers win
Battle fought at (5,25):
   Grand Irish Fleet attacking (12 units)
   Burning Redux, Ships, North, South defending (8 units)
   Black Flagship destroyed
   12th Irish Galleon destroyed
   Galleon (805) destroyed
   Galleon (806) destroyed
   Blue Flagship destroyed
   Galleon (804) destroyed
   Red Flagship destroyed
   Galleon (807) destroyed
   Galleon (803) destroyed
   Attackers win
Battle fought at (28,32):
   Wessex army 644 attacking (2 units)
   Horse J defending (1 units) with defense bonus 25%
   Knights (735) destroyed
   Attackers win
Battle fought at (29,35):
   Wessex army 653 attacking (2 units)
   Raidinghoofs defending (1 units) with defense bonus 25%
   Loki destroyed
   Attackers win
Battle fought at (29,32):
   Wessex army 650 attacking (2 units)
   Horse F defending (1 units)
   Knights (731) destroyed
   Attackers win
Battle fought at (30,31):
   Wessex army 649 attacking (2 units)
   Horse D defending (1 units)
   Knights (729) destroyed
   Attackers win
Battle fought at (30,32):
   Wessex army 647 attacking (2 units)
   Horse E defending (1 units)
   Knights (730) destroyed
   Attackers win
Battle fought at (29,33):
   Wessex army 646 attacking (2 units)
   Horse K defending (1 units) with defense bonus 50%
   Knights (721) destroyed
   Attackers win
Battle fought at (27,32):
   Wessex FRU attacking (2 units)
   Horse O defending (1 units)
   Knights (725) destroyed
   Attackers win
Battle fought at (30,34):
   Crisis attacking (2 units)
   Horse M defending (1 units)
   Knights (723) destroyed
   Attackers win
Battle fought at (28,31):
   Wessex army 585 attacking (2 units)
   Horse I defending (1 units)
   Knights (734) destroyed
   Attackers win
Nos Da Gang moves to (14,29)
Battle fought at (30,30):
   Horse H attacking (1 units)
   Wessex army 564 defending (1 units) with defense bonus 25%
   Bowmen (580) destroyed
   Attackers win
Battle fought at (28,31):
   Stormhooves attacking (4 units)
   Wessex army 585 defending (2 units)
   Mounted Crossbowmen (775) destroyed
   Mounted Crossbowmen (814) destroyed
   Attackers win
Odds & Sods moves to (11,28)
Battle fought at (26,31):
   Horse N attacking (1 units)
   Wessex army 479 defending (2 units) with defense bonus 75%
   Bowmen (581) destroyed
   Bowmen (593) destroyed
   Attackers win
Battle fought at (26,34):
   Horse L attacking (1 units)
   Wessex army 661 defending (1 units) with defense bonus 75%
   Knights (722) destroyed
   Defenders win
Danes army 626 moves to (23,1)
Bridlington Guard moves to (22,25)
Connistonbane moves to (18,4)
Raiders 1 moves to (20,3)
Raiders 4 moves to (20,3)
Raiders 3 moves to (19,4)
Raiders 2 moves to (18,4)
Ironruin moves to (19,4)
The Bronze Horde moves to (27,29)
Wales army 638 has conquered Lyme Regis!
   Population reduced to 2
Torbane has razed Pictland's village on (23,3)!
Wee Scout has razed Pictland's village on (22,6)!
Conquer (22,35) with army Raiding 2 failed: Army already disbanded
Conquer (22,36) with army Raiding 3 failed: Army already disbanded
Conquer (18,35) with army Raiding 1 failed: Army already disbanded
Conquer (30,34) with army Horse M failed: Army already disbanded
Conquer (29,35) with army Raidinghoofs failed: Army already disbanded
Conquer (29,33) with army Horse K failed: Army already disbanded
Conquer (29,32) with army Horse F failed: Army already disbanded
Conquer (27,32) with army Horse O failed: Army already disbanded
Conquer (30,32) with army Horse E failed: Army already disbanded
Horse C has razed Wessex's village on (31,31)!
Conquer (30,31) with army Horse D failed: Army already disbanded
Horse A has razed Wessex's village on (32,30)!
Horse B has razed Wessex's village on (31,30)!
Conquer (28,31) with army Horse I failed: Army already disbanded
Horse G has razed Wessex's village on (29,30)!
Ester has razed Wessex's village on (28,30)!

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Battle Log

The full force of the Irish navy sailed into the bay of Irada and the seas ran red with the blood of Danish men and their unlucky steeds. Hulls packed with horses that would have cut through Ireland's green and unsullied land were sank as the armada arrived just in time and the High King's gamble with the fate of his nation paid off.

Elsewhere, the Danes were equally unlucky. The raiders around Lyme Regis were quickly quashed and in the southeast the knights of Wessex spread out across the plains and hamlets besting the marauders in most battles. Up in the Highlands, King Causantin Mac Fergusa II made camp in the hills above Mott Fergusa, finally with a force that could take back some of his lost cities.

Turn 65: 879 AD

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Harsh Seas and Plagues Continue in the Homeland! Danes are unable to gain reinforcements for Two More Years (until 881AD)! They will still reap income as normal.

Danish Income: 35  (7*5 tiles razed)

Mercia - Rolepg
Wessex - Varee
Wales - Zanz
Ireland - Lemon10
Pictland - Kashyyk
Danes - NQT

[Kashyyk]

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<playerturn player="Kashyyk">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="22" y="3"/>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="39">
      <unittype code="sword"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="8">
      <building code="bank"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="17">
      <building code="bank"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="31">
      <building code="baz"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders>
    <armyorgorder type="rnUnit" armyid="668" x="23" y="11">
      <targetunit unitid="837"/>
      <newname>Ser Michaels Familia</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="rnArmy" armyid="668" x="23" y="11">
      <newname>Caern Michaels Garrison</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="rnUnit" armyid="667" x="22" y="15">
      <targetunit unitid="836"/>
      <newname>Ser Montane Familia</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="667" x="22" y="15">
      <targetunit unitid="836"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="570"/>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="dArmy" armyid="667" x="22" y="15"/>
  </armyorgorders>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="568" x="23" y="7">
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="627" x="19" y="8">
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="177" x="18" y="7">
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="570" x="22" y="15">
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="523" x="27" y="7">
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>

[Varee]

hey NQT if i pay the dane of this turn they wont take my cities right?

[Varee]

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<playerturn player="Varee">
  <tileorders/>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="30">
      <building code="horsB"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="addPop" cityid="61"/>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="0">
      <unittype code="hbow3"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="6">
      <building code="horsB"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="12">
      <unittype code="gboat"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="18">
      <unittype code="gboat"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="642" x="29" y="32">
      <targetunit unitid="148"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="650"/>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="642" x="29" y="32">
      <targetunit unitid="136"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="650"/>
    </armyorgorder>
  </armyorgorders>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="616" x="31" y="36">
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="-1" dy="0"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="241" x="27" y="32">
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="644" x="28" y="32">
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="645" x="28" y="32">
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="649" x="30" y="31">
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="648" x="30" y="31">
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="647" x="30" y="32">
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="646" x="29" y="33">
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="0"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="611" x="30" y="34">
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="650" x="29" y="32">
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="661" x="26" y="34">
      <step dx="1" dy="0"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="643" x="27" y="34">
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="662" x="26" y="36">
      <step dx="1" dy="1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="0"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="0"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="0"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="663" x="29" y="36">
      <step dx="1" dy="1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="282" x="24" y="31">
      <step dx="1" dy="0"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="0"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="653" x="29" y="35">
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders></playerturn>

another question, will they retaliate if i pay them off and then attack them? I will pay them off this turn as two 5 po city is alot more than 50 gold.

[notquitethere]

Usually you'd pay the Danes and then next turn they won't attack, as I might already have made my moves. However, I'm willing to make an exception and amend this turn if you pay 50 gold. As such, they won't conquer your cities or raze your lands this round. Of course, the game engine will cause them to fight back if you do attack them.