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How often do you play Dwarf Fortress?

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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: Ninja Plots
« Reply #1950 on: July 09, 2014, 06:37:10 pm »

Or, at least, they'll try- by how the world is set up, they've already failed. At least part of the creation (Collective Unconscious, the Afterlife, Hell) are intrinsically tied to whatever the hell's alive or the void, so good fucking luck destroying those without collapsing the universe on yourself.

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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: Ninja Plots
« Reply #1951 on: July 09, 2014, 06:39:09 pm »

Um... didn't @Ragnarok establish that once the universe falls to entropy the entire damn thing restarts? If that's the case you could threaten MAD by ensuring that if they destroy most of the universe, you have measures that destroy everything that remains thereby ending everything.
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« Reply #1952 on: July 09, 2014, 06:41:13 pm »

Yes. That's HOW they harvest everything over and over. Because shenanigans let them stay out of the process. Somehow.

And now I'm tempted to work an explanation that essentially shunts them into E:G.

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« Reply #1953 on: July 09, 2014, 06:42:56 pm »

Right, so what exactly do they gain from it?
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: Ninja Plots
« Reply #1954 on: July 09, 2014, 06:43:12 pm »

Someone tells the Grim Reaper and he throws them there as it's basically a universal jail?
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« Reply #1955 on: July 09, 2014, 06:46:39 pm »

Someone tells the Grim Reaper and he throws them there as it's basically a universal jail?
Won't work. They aren't violating anything the Grim Reaper cares about. Unless they randomly try to interfere with unclaimed souls or commit mass tax evasion.
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« Reply #1956 on: July 09, 2014, 06:46:52 pm »

Right, so what exactly do they gain from it?
They're pricks. They gain revenge. They fuck over the creation of the most powerful thing ever.

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« Reply #1957 on: July 09, 2014, 06:49:54 pm »

But they've already done it twelve times. What compels them to continue?

Also, that isn't really saying much when the creator is sealed. Of course a better question is what the hell the creator was doing the last twelve times since that was prior to her sealing. Unless getting sealed is a regular thing for her.
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« Reply #1958 on: July 09, 2014, 06:51:24 pm »

Except the creator is unsealed now. And the only people who COULD seal her won't dare do it again, lest they die horribly.

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« Reply #1959 on: July 09, 2014, 06:53:04 pm »

I mean, unless she was sealed the last twelve times as well, wouldn't she have either been defeated and indefinitely sealed by them or defeated them and horribly murdered all of them by now?

Each side only needed to win once, yet this has been a victory for one side twelve times. Why?
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: Ninja Plots
« Reply #1960 on: July 09, 2014, 07:09:58 pm »

A few possibilities there. One, everything is destroyed by her, and she managed to beat the crap out of the void entities before they could seal her. Two, they purposely unseal her so they can continuously destroy creation, which they either do for fun or so they can collect souls, the jury's out on that one. Three, she's the latest in a long line of recreators of the universe, and the void entities have to keep coming back to smash everything.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: Ninja Plots
« Reply #1961 on: July 09, 2014, 07:12:47 pm »

  • Possible, in that case they didn't so much win as much as she just did all the work for them. In that case the comment about each iteration, including this one, being easier is just bravado.
  • Possible, though I don't think she has to be unsealed for Creation to restart. She just has to exist.
  • Not possible. @Ragnarok's lore dictates that she indeed is the original Creator.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: Ninja Plots
« Reply #1962 on: July 09, 2014, 07:13:16 pm »

Why doesn't Creation ever smash back?

I mean, the Void seems like the anti-universe, and when matter and anti-matter hit each other, both get annihilated, not just one.

Creation should get it's shit together and start beating Void down.
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« Reply #1963 on: July 09, 2014, 07:14:15 pm »

Because the lore is screwed up, so only Void can enter Creation for some arbitrary reason. Creation entering Void gets annihilated unless it has void magic.
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« Reply #1964 on: July 09, 2014, 07:15:34 pm »

I didn't say Creation should enter Void.

Just that it should blow the shit out of it.

One sided conflicts like this, while 'dramatic', are boring.
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