I'm "pushing" to reveal to test who's willing to put their own lives on the line to assist in putting the pieces of the puzzle together, and find out who's willing to lie about what they may have done, and who's too cowardly to make a risky move. I'm a man of risky moves, Toaster, I prefer puzzles and gambits to waiting out and finding out who flips. Because if we wait, too many flips could be town.
flabort: And what has the inevitable mass unwillingness to massclaim told you about your fellow players?
Saying that I'm "exposing" town's "hard counters" is a tad... let's say that how you put it sounds riskier than the way I see it. I understand if nobody's willing to reveal for fear that scum might misuse that information, but if every towny claimed, scum would have no choice but to claim, and once the scum claimed, we'd have all the information we'd need to root out every lying scum. So I guess I'm asking for a Mass Claim.
You're making dangerously flawed assumptions.
*You can't safely assume that scum, aside from whoever does the main scum kill/convert/whatever, will lie about their powers in a massclaim. Most scum powers are town powers as well, and it's often much safer to tell the truth and justify it as pro-town than to tell a lie. Heck, scum sometimes tries to actively carry out pro-town night actions.
*You can't safely assume that you will be able to prove scum is lying if they lie. This is not CYOM. We do not have a massive network of investigative roles to all confirm each other, as that is horribly broken. There are many powers that are quite hard to confirm or deny, particularly if we don't have a tracker or watcher or whatever (or, say, if they die or get converted because the scumteam knows who they are because they claimed).
That wasn't entirely the message I meant to infer. I meant, "I hoped you'd be willing to answer my questions, since you're newer". I did not mean "If you don't answer I'll immediately throw you into my red area of the scumometer", which wouldn't be possible anyways.
See, I don't see either of those messages. What I see in your post is you telling Hapah that by not telling you his role, he was not cooperating with town (implying that he should tell you his role to properly cooperate with town). I see that because that's what you wrote.
ToonyMan: I hesitate to call Ottofar an
active-lurker, but yeah, active-lurking.
I'll wait for your answer to my question about zombie urist.
zombie urist: The second post in that list of Persus posts is him laying out a case against Guardsman. You seem to be stretching a bit to show inaction.
Considering your attack on Persus for low activity is clearly dependent on the LurkerTracker (I noticed the statement that he has only 14 posts, which is not true, but is what the LurkerTracker says), the LurkerTracker isn't working right, and Persus13's posts are known to be being missed by the LurkerTracker, do you still feel comfortable with this attack? What do you think of Persus's posts after
this one, the last Day 1 Persus post LurkerTracker could pick up?
Another question: is your suspicion of NQT still based on
the same things as it was before? If not, how has it changed?
I still feel like you're hiding under all your "helpful content". Compiling reads and speculating on scumteam composition is something anybody can do.
TheWetSheep: First, can you say why you feel like NQT is hiding behind this content? Second, what do you think of the rest of his actions? There's a lot missing from this statement of suspicion.
TheWetSheep
I still feel like you're hiding under all your "helpful content". Compiling reads and speculating on scumteam composition is something anybody can do.
Oh no! I'm coming across as Too Townie!
NQT: Respond to the attack at hand, not something sort of like the attack at hand, please. To quote the MafiaScum wiki page titled "Too Townie":
Please note that it is NOT a fallacy to claim somebody is trying to "appear" protown (especially if you can also demonstrate how there are likely sinister motives under an otherwise townish sounding post). What this is getting at are posts along the thought of "you look so town, you must be scum".
Granted, there isn't exactly much to respond to in his actual attack.