Extend. We have much we need to hear.
Also, could you give me your reads please?
NQT: Sure.
Reads*
Jim Groovester: Has just become capable of posting. Mostly just gives the impression of being Jim Groovester. Null read.
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ToonyMan: Reasonable votes so far. Currently focused on the quiet, lurky players, FoSing 2 and voting 1. Wary neutal read.
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flabort: Having watched flabort apply his spreadsheet before joining NSBM4, I have a pretty good idea of how he used it. His early play was largely consistent with him letting the spreadsheet control his play, rather than using it as a way to track his thoughts. See, for instance, the odd -11 on Guardsman, gained through loads of poor posts (a weakness of post-by-post tracking of flabort's sort). Even with that in mind, there were some oddities (the case on IG being an unrelated post of mine, for instance). The collapse of his case on Toaster seems to have been enough to get him to change his play. Reads now have details. Nothing seems immediately all that off. Flabort uses his spreadsheet whatever alignment he is. Null read.
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Persus13: Seemed to be willing to rethink his read on IG early on, when new evidence came. Has been generally pretty open in response to questions. Slight town lean.
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notquitethere: (revoting for clarity at a glance) Spent quite some time sitting back and trying to keep attention on whoever was getting attention, while giving as little as possible in the way of his thoughts. Defense, when confronted on this, has been a mix of generally competent, but weak, attempts to create doubt, coupled with desperate attempts to make facts seem to back his narrative (see, for instance, the
astounding attempt to spin the fact that he was defending himself into proof that he wasn't holding himself to a lower standard of openness than he said everyone should be held to). Moderate scum lean.
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Tiruin: Has been fighting real life for the past few weeks. Real life has been winning. Null read.
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Toaster: Has been scumhunting well, plus has been keeping people well informed about prior Supernaturals. Reads list was low on reads, though. Neutral read.
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zombie urist: Spent quite some time contributing little of value. Made a ridiculously lazy vote on NQT Did not respond to my
request for a response to NQT, though my request was a bit outdated by the time I posted. Low-moderate scum lean.
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4maskwolf/TheWetSheep: 4maskwolf was a jumpy, hyperactive mess. Of the player quirks to go with, ignoring nuance in votes is a pretty terrible one, especially when the nuance is necessary to consider when determining the intentions of attackers. Most of his issues seemed to be more issues of competence than issues of alignment, though. His successor, TheWetSheep, has come out with odd and unexplained preliminary reads (in particular, the Jiukoy one). However, he is still working on gathering reads. Neutral read.
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Ottofar: Lurky, an Ottofar tradition. Has promised reads soon. Let's see what he says. Null read.
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Jiokuy: So. We all spend a few days waiting for Jiokuy to post after
this post. A bunch of questions are asked. Finally, we get
this: no answers to any of the questions, minimal information, and a bad case on Jim that's vague and isn't even based on facts (for instance, Jim has questioned people who aren't attacking him). Low scum lean.
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Imperial Guardsman: Twit. Third party claim seems generally believable, but I cannot rely on the part about flabort being town based solely on Guardsman.
Questiony/Answery StuffToonyMan: You said a while back that
you had a feeling that NQT and 4maskwolf were working together. Can you say why you thought and/or think this?
I'm happy with a few things NQT is doing so I'd like to give him a chance.
What are these things?
flabort: I notice that you lean towards Toaster being scum, but the only negative value in your reads is on Jim. What caused the negative value for the latter? What makes you suspect Toaster, but not suspect the lower-value Jim? Is this the continuing issues with your scumometer?
(where does ZU work? What new product?)
Let's let ZU have his privacy.
zombie urist: Alright. Until now, you were voting for NQT. You still suspect NQT. What do you think of his defenses against allegations against him so far?
Voted IG in the beginning for Jack not asking him (IG) about thirds, but Jack himself already responded to that a few posts before. link
What makes this evidence against Persus13?
Jiokuy: Answer
my questions,
NQT's questions,
Persus13's questions, and
Toaster's question.Normally I wouldn't want a lynch over only one tell.(abet it's a strong tell)
But this has not been a normal game.
How is this game not normal? What about that abnormality makes you willing to lynch Jim on your one tell?
If that were my intention, why would I go about consistently bringing up the need for reads and reflections from others?
notquitethere: To explain why you were trying to focus as much attention as you could on those who were already under attack. To look like an active, helpful player.
Do you think I'd think no one would notice if I did none of that myself before the end of the day?
I think you hoped nobody would notice your behaviour, including your lack of thoughts, but had some vague idea of how to explain your actions in case you were noticed. Standard on-the-fly mafia behaviour: no detailed plans, some room for error, you know. Playing like actual people play, not like the I'm Too Good A Scum Player To Do That argument assumes scum players play (I don't much like that argument, but I see it all too often). Your idea of a good explanation was likely an explanation that would fit with your known tendency towards heterodox play, a tendency you
recently awkwardly shoehorned into one of your arguments in defense against Toaster ("I almost always play in ways people disagree with: am I scum in every game?"). (You really wanted people to remember that, didn't you?)
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