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Yes, please give us Vikings and Ninjas and Knights.

Yes, but only if it doesnt take too much work.

Maybe better to only make one civ, as close to vanilla DF humans as possible.

Maybe better to only make one civ, as close to MDF humans as possible.

No, I dont like it because it doesnt fit a procedually generated fantasy world.

No, I dont like it, because... (please post the reasons)

[foxtrot]

Hey guys, since the start of my fortress I've been fishing to keep it fed and it was going great but now that the river is now empty of all life I started making the neat new fisher guilds and i made a few of them.

http://i.imgur.com/d8wts5i.png

The problem is that i was noticing my fish stock still dropping and that all my fisher guilds qere farming was a substance called "knowledge".
So no fish but allot of "knowledge which is worrying me, I'l still build a farm but I was hoping to know if this si a bug or something.

http://i.imgur.com/W1hkkM3.png ( as you can see my turtlepond is full of knowledge but no turtles)

[denspb]

The problem is that i was noticing my fish stock still dropping and that all my fisher guilds qere farming was a substance called "knowledge".
So no fish but allot of "knowledge which is worrying me, I'l still build a farm but I was hoping to know if this si a bug or something.

http://i.imgur.com/W1hkkM3.png ( as you can see my turtlepond is full of knowledge but no turtles)

As I believe, this knowledge stones are there for the quicker experience growth. They should evaporate as they appear (it implies you haven't turned off TEMPERATURE).
As for fish/turtles, each reaction generates fish or turtle with 10% chance (50% chance for knowledge stone).
With legendary fish farmer (and no stockpile for buckets) that would still bring you tons of food, but with dabbling fisher it can be really slow.

[foxtrot]

Your right I did turn off tempature so would that mean that i can still get fish but with knowledge stones or do I have to turn on tempature to get fish?

[slay_mithos]

No, the temperature will only make the rocks evaporate (along with a whole lot of other similar "rocks").

The ponds are just fairly low probability, all of them, and it's on the labels too.
They usually are only half decent once you get to very high level in the skill, to be able to chain the jobs very fast.

[denspb]

Couple of bug reports (so that they don't get lost).
1) Easy workout in Weight bench consumes the bar reagent (Medium/Hard workouts are fine)
2) "Farm turtles" says 5% chance in title, but actual chance is 10%.

[slay_mithos]

The "workout" (the easy one) is a reaction that does not use any item in the raws, so I really doubt it would consume anything.

[denspb]

The "workout" (the easy one) is a reaction that does not use any item in the raws, so I really doubt it would consume anything.

I believe that was true in prior versions, however in 6.1 raws are:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[REACTION:WORK_OUT1]
   [NAME:Work out - Easy (Any bar)]
   [BUILDING:TRAINING_DWARF:CUSTOM_A]
   [BUILDING:WEIGHT_SET_KOBOLD:CUSTOM_A]
   [BUILDING:HERMIT_WEIGHT_SET:CUSTOM_A]
   [REAGENT:A:150:BAR:NONE:INORGANIC:NONE]
   [PRODUCT:100:5:BOULDER:NONE:INORGANIC:SWEAT]
   [SKILL:MISC_WEAPON]

[REACTION:WORK_OUT2]
   [NAME:Work out - Medium (Any Metal Bar)]
   [BUILDING:TRAINING_DWARF:CUSTOM_B]
   [BUILDING:WEIGHT_SET_KOBOLD:CUSTOM_B]
   [BUILDING:HERMIT_WEIGHT_SET:CUSTOM_B]
   [REAGENT:A:150:BAR:NONE:INORGANIC:NONE][REACTION_CLASS:IS_METAL]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:BAR:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:NONE][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
   [PRODUCT:100:10:BOULDER:NONE:INORGANIC:SWEAT]
   [SKILL:MISC_WEAPON]

[REACTION:WORK_OUT3]
   [NAME:Work out - Hard (Lead Bar)]
   [BUILDING:TRAINING_DWARF:CUSTOM_C]
   [BUILDING:WEIGHT_SET_KOBOLD:CUSTOM_C]
   [BUILDING:HERMIT_WEIGHT_SET:CUSTOM_C]
   [REAGENT:A:150:BAR:NONE:INORGANIC:LEAD]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:BAR:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:NONE][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
   [PRODUCT:100:20:BOULDER:NONE:INORGANIC:SWEAT]
   [SKILL:MISC_WEAPON]

[slay_mithos]

Oh, I mostly play with the v6, because I don't care too much for the hermit, and from "reaction_masterwork2.txt"

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[REACTION:WORK_OUT1]
[NAME:Work out]
[BUILDING:TRAINING_DWARF:CUSTOM_A]
[BUILDING:WEIGHT_SET_KOBOLD:CUSTOM_A]
[PRODUCT:100:10:BOULDER:NONE:INORGANIC:SWEAT]
[SKILL:MISC_WEAPON]

[REACTION:WORK_OUT2]
[NAME:Work out - Medium (Any Metal Bar)]
[BUILDING:TRAINING_DWARF:CUSTOM_B]
[BUILDING:WEIGHT_SET_KOBOLD:CUSTOM_B]
[REAGENT:A:150:BAR:NONE:INORGANIC:NONE][REACTION_CLASS:IS_METAL]
[PRODUCT:100:1:BAR:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:NONE][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
[PRODUCT:100:20:BOULDER:NONE:INORGANIC:SWEAT]
[SKILL:MISC_WEAPON]

[REACTION:WORK_OUT3]
[NAME:Work out - Hard (Lead Bar)]
[BUILDING:TRAINING_DWARF:CUSTOM_C]
[BUILDING:WEIGHT_SET_KOBOLD:CUSTOM_C]
[REAGENT:A:150:BAR:NONE:INORGANIC:LEAD]
[PRODUCT:100:1:BAR:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:A:NONE][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
[PRODUCT:100:30:BOULDER:NONE:INORGANIC:SWEAT]
[SKILL:MISC_WEAPON]
It's a bit odd, I really thought that 6.1 was just adding the hermit, but apparently, other changes had been made.

[denspb]

One more strange thing I've witnessed. It looks more like dwarf fortress bug rather than MW, but MW seems to create conditions necessary to reproduce:

In my human fort I have 3 bureaucrats. At some point new items required to increase precision of bookkeeping. Two of bureaucrats started updating records simultaneously and it seems that they were nod doing any progress at all. It could be true if record keeping job does "at the end of job unit set the bookkeeping score to score at the beginning of the job + some value".
Could someone proove/refute that?

[Illogical_Blox]

Hey. Just wanted to ask - on the fort in my sig, I rented market stalls in spring for 3 months. It is now autumn, they haven't left. I need those coins - am I meant to do something?

[Meph]

Hey. Just wanted to ask - on the fort in my sig, I rented market stalls in spring for 3 months. It is now autumn, they haven't left. I need those coins - am I meant to do something?

You get the coins the instant you rent it out. If they dont leave (which they should), you can kick them out manually.

[Illogical_Blox]

Hey. Just wanted to ask - on the fort in my sig, I rented market stalls in spring for 3 months. It is now autumn, they haven't left. I need those coins - am I meant to do something?

You get the coins the instant you rent it out. If they dont leave (which they should), you can kick them out manually.

I tried several times, looked all around, etc.

No coins. I'll check tomorrow.

[Meph]

Only one that doesnt give coins is the human merchant/worker. All other do give coins.
Which race is it, and which workshop?

[Illogical_Blox]

Only one that doesnt give coins is the human merchant/worker. All other do give coins.
Which race is it, and which workshop?

Ah. I've been renting the foreign and local stalls to humans. Bah.

[Meph]

Manual and flowchart say that you dont get anything from them. after all, you rent to your own people, there is no outside flux of money coming in.