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Until I figure out how to un-close it, at least.

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So yeah.

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Voting closed: May 01, 2014, 02:06:40 pm

[smjjames]

Yeah, with this attitude the civil war is imminent.

Til a civil war is fought with almost entirely foreign troops on one side.

I wonder if Russian troops would end up getting caught in the crossfire between a pro-Russian and pro-Ukranian battle.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Civil war? Nah, It is the war for Ukrainian Independence. Ukraine vs Russia and Russian loyalists.

[smjjames]

Civil war? Nah, It is the war for Ukrainian Independence. Ukraine vs Russia and Russian loyalists.

Nice take on that

[Sheb]

After all, no one call the American War of Independence a Civil War, and it certainly was. :p

Anyway, nasty business in Odessa. It's hard to know exactly what happened, but one thing is certain: about 30 people were burned alive. That's, really, really bad. Poor guys.

[Guardian G.I.]

This footage (allegedly) shows fighting between Ukrainian and pro-Russian forces that happened today after midnight in Kramatorsk.
It actually appears to be depicting an incident when Ukrainian soldiers opened fire on a crowd of civilians blocking the road before an army column in Kramatorsk.

[Sheb]

So, is it officially a war now?

[10ebbor10]

Nope, but perhaps it is an armed conflict.

IIRC, to qualify as a war the conflict needs to last at least 1 year, and kill an average of a 1000 people a day.

[Sinistar]

This footage (allegedly) shows fighting between Ukrainian and pro-Russian forces that happened today after midnight in Kramatorsk.
It actually appears to be depicting an incident when Ukrainian soldiers opened fire on a crowd of civilians blocking the road before an army column in Kramatorsk.

Is it just me or does it seem there's quite a lot of shooting in the air involved? Coupled with cheering from the crowd? It's almost like they are celebrating instead of fighting...

Just an observation though.

[LordSlowpoke]

Nope, but perhaps it is an armed conflict.

IIRC, to qualify as a war the conflict needs to last at least 1 year, and kill an average of a 1000 people a day.

that's a modern definition, right?

i could shove a really big amount of wars that were less than a year long at you soooooo

[Guardian G.I.]

Speaking about (some) Ukrainian reactions to the Odessa fire...

In the post about Odessa I've intentionally unlocked practically all comments from "the other side". Comments from people living on the Ukrainian territory.
Read it. It should be read.
Being able to hear the voice of hell is not something that occurs often.

I don't know how Russia will react. I don't even know how it should react. If someone asked me for advice, I wouldn't say anything.
USA is pushing us to send troops. That means it's a trap. That means we mustn't do it.
That means let Ukrainian-speaking Ukrainians burn Russian-speaking Ukrainians. We shouldn't rescue thousands if millions will get killed in the process.
Probably. I don't know.

I only know that you can't write "bacon", "we fried them", "they couldn't fly" and remain human.
Read it. They are very happy now. They've burned 50 people alive, and haven't been punished. They liked it.

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[Knit tie]

"Choo-choo!", goes the hate train.

"Purge the heresy!", will soon go various genuinely righteous defenders of Russia and Ukraine.

I mean, UR has already exhibited a complete inability to believe that his side can be morally wrong.

[miljan]

It was posted on this thread though. I'll see if I can find it. Maybe those actually were the Ukranian APCs, no idea.

Edit: Looks like the video was taken down because the owner closed their account and I'll admit that I'm not sure what I saw, I think they were even going in circles with one of the vehichles and having a bit of fun in one part.

Is this the video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRlqAorRUUk
It's the video of ukraine surrendered APC.

[Sinistar]

Speaking about (some) Ukrainian reactions to the Odessa fire...

In the post about Odessa I've intentionally unlocked practically all comments from "the other side". Comments from people living on the Ukrainian territory.
Read it. It should be read.
Being able to hear the voice of hell is not something that occurs often.

I don't know how Russia will react. I don't even know how it should react. If someone asked me for advice, I wouldn't say anything.
USA is pushing us to send troops. That means it's a trap. That means we mustn't do it.
That means let Ukrainian-speaking Ukrainians burn Russian-speaking Ukrainians. We shouldn't rescue thousands if millions will get killed in the process.
Probably. I don't know.

I only know that you can't write "bacon", "we fried them", "they couldn't fly" and remain human.
Read it. They are very happy now. They've burned 50 people alive, and haven't been punished. They liked it.

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You'd think someone like him would know better than to trust online comments sections of any sort to convey anything but the most extreme emotions of general target public.. 

Meanwhile, the not-quite-main-OSCE-mission observers have been freed in Sloviansk, together with some Ukrainian officers.

[scriver]

Meanwhile in Russia, foreign kid's literature is corrupting the children.

[da_nang]

Meanwhile in Russia, foreign kid's literature is corrupting the children.

Crimean Anschluss, book burnings, homophobia, censorship, crackdown on opposition, corruption, propaganda...

Oh the irony coming from a country hellbent on "ousting the fascists" in Ukraine. I guess they haven't polished that mirror in a long time...