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Until I figure out how to un-close it, at least.

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So yeah.

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Voting closed: May 01, 2014, 02:06:40 pm

[smjjames]

I always imagined they were shut-ins that lived in their parents basement or in small shack at the backyard they share with old and rusty tractor, with USSR banner and pictures of topless Putin hanging from the wall. It seems to fit their behaviour well.

If you tone down the vitriol a bit, that'd be nice.

A lot of otherwise normal people here have the Soviet mindset so deeply ingrained into them that no amount of western liberalism can cure it. I personally know a very intelligent history professor who goes out of his way to prove that Russian nations are superior to the European ones in every conversation we have on the topic, one of his main arguments being that the Europe is suffering from crippling inbreeeding because it's so small. He obviously didn't take basic genetics or geography into consideration, but he always takes stating the flaws in his statement as a personal insult.

Must, refrain, from, a, 'compensating for something' comment.

[Loud Whispers]

A lot of otherwise normal people here have the Soviet mindset so deeply ingrained into them that no amount of western liberalism can cure it. I personally know a very intelligent history professor who goes out of his way to prove that Russian nations are superior to the European ones in every conversation we have on the topic, one of his main arguments being that the Europe is suffering from crippling inbreeeding because it's so small. He obviously didn't take basic genetics or geography into consideration, but he always takes stating the flaws in his statement as a personal insult.

Iceland has this weird thing where they're all mostly loosely interrelated, yet are pretty damn healthy genetics wise. They've got some kind of Goldilocks zone going on.

[Mr. Strange]

If you tone down the vitriol a bit, that'd be nice.

Can't, it's byproduct from reading too much news every time one of our superpowers decides to piss in the face of international laws and general "not-invading-sovereign-countries-with-made-up-or-forged-excuses" and then see common people honestly trying to defend said actions. It always makes me wish those people would get some of what they are so freely wishing for others on themselves, just so they would realise what real "war" feels like, that they are so eager to support. Not that I think it would solve anything, but it would be fun to mock them when they start whining about it...
If it makes you feel any better I've said worse things about Bush and Palin supporters.


I had different kind of teachers, one that I remember best was history teacher from year 7. During class he made few of us stand in line and pose as "brave Finnish solders, ready to die for their home, god and fatherland", then said he was going to make us re-enact Russian offensive in winter war with him playing the part of Russia (note that he was grossly overweight, as wide as three of us side-by-side), then let out loud roar whole school must have heard and ran right through our line. He pulled similar stunts at least once a week, School Shootings and Why It Is Great Idea To Bring Guns To School, Best Korea missile tests, political bologney and any local politics that made it to the news. Best teacher ever.

Edit:

So who'll take a bet on war breaking out within the next three months? Let's say, one local beer.

I'm game, voting for one month. I always lose when I gamble, let's hope it works this time too.

[misko27]

So who'll take a bet on war breaking out within the next three months? Let's say, one local beer.

I'm game, voting for one month. I always lose when I gamble, let's hope it works this time too.

I'll take no war, but it'll have to be a beer where you are, unless you are willing to face charges of providing alcohol to minors. Legal drinking age is somewhat higher then average here.

Ukraine should just take Right-Sector and put them next to the separatists, and have them sort it out amongst themselves.

[Digital Hellhound]

Mr. Strange, where did you go to school? That is both hilarious and disturbing. Hilturbing? Most of the, uh, quirky teachers seem to have filtered into Religion in my experience of the Finnish school system.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

BTW, This night a pro-RussianPutin presidency candidate was nearly lynched by an angry mob in Kyiv (six bodyguards can't do much against many angry people)
He was saved by... No, not the police. He was saved by the Right Sector.

[da_nang]

Driving on the roads in Donetsk is apparently not safe anymore.

EDIT: Pro-Ukrainian protests in Kharkiv.

[GrizzlyAdamz]

What are they saying at 2:20?

[Guardian G.I.]

This video shot by pro-Russian forces allegedly shows a stand-off between their members and a Ukrainian tank at one of the roads leading to Slavyansk that allegedly happened yesterday.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Normal tank commander would shot from that big machinegun. First above their heads, then directly at this scum (If you know Russian it's easy to understand their general level of culture and IQ)

Our regular army is not ready to kill on this war, yet

[Sergarr]

Normal tank commander would shot from that big machinegun. First above their heads, then directly at this scum (If you know Russian it's easy to understand their general level of culture and IQ)

Our regular army is not ready to kill on this war, yet

Obviously the best solution to solve the civil war is to shoot unarmed civilians.

And calling people "scum" should not be accepted in the Ukraine-trying-to-be-progressive-democracy.

[Sinistar]

Yes, I am afraid using machinegun would escalate the situation even further. Maybe it would be enough to scare the mob away in this case, but by such act, opposition would just be given even better excuse (shooting civilians is a crime, after all) justify their cause. 

However, care to give some translation of what's going on in the video? What are they demanding from the tank crew? And any thoughts on why is this tank operating seemingly alone, and in (apparently) hostile territory?

Also:

Also, have a video for ya: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdH8OEpDY0k

I'm still interested about that. Care to translate or at least give a rough idea of what are the people in this video talking about? What rationale did the civilians use to make soldiers disarm? And there was the police - why did they put rifles in the police car?

Not trying to aggravate you or anything though, I just hope to get some info on this as I don't really understand what's going on but I'd really like too...I welcome any other native Ukrainian/Russian speaker to enlighten me.

What are they saying at 2:20?

I can understand "Glory to Ukraine" and "Glory to heroes", I think.

[da_nang]

Smoking Guns Shatter Russian Lies About No Troops In Ukraine

[Sergarr]

Yes, I am afraid using machinegun would escalate the situation even further. Maybe it would be enough to scare the mob away in this case, but by such act, opposition would just be given even better excuse (shooting civilians is a crime, after all) justify their cause. 

However, care to give some translation of what's going on in the video? What are they demanding from the tank crew? And any thoughts on why is this tank operating seemingly alone, and in (apparently) hostile territory?

Also:

Also, have a video for ya: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdH8OEpDY0k

I'm still interested about that. Care to translate or at least give a rough idea of what are the people in this video talking about? What rationale did the civilians use to make soldiers disarm? And there was the police - why did they put rifles in the police car?

Not trying to aggravate you or anything though, I just hope to get some info on this as I don't really understand what's going on but I'd really like too...I welcome any other native Ukrainian/Russian speaker to enlighten me.

What are they saying at 2:20?

I can understand "Glory to Ukraine" and "Glory to heroes", I think.

About video, I kinda don't understand it fully, but somebody in the video said that these guys were recently mobilized.

EDIT: Replace "mobilized" with "conscripted".

[Loud Whispers]

For some comedy horror:

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