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Author Topic: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!  (Read 54618 times)

Leafsnail

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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #510 on: April 29, 2014, 09:03:32 pm »

Cheese shoots you in the approximately one-second gap between 4mask being killed and you hammering no lynch, you mean?
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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #511 on: April 29, 2014, 09:03:42 pm »

...Best 2 out of 3, Toaster? :v

Congratulations town in shooting everybody but the King Mafia.
Guess what?
I didn't shoot anyone. And primarily suspected NQT for...
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For.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2014, 09:05:13 pm by Tiruin »
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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #512 on: April 29, 2014, 09:08:48 pm »

Spoiler: Round 1 (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Round 2 (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Round 3 (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Round 4 (click to show/hide)
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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #513 on: April 29, 2014, 09:12:53 pm »

To be fair NQT's night seven plan was equally bad.  It basically amounted to "have 4maskwolf die if he's not mafia".  It's essentially a miracle that Toaster (or any other hypothetical KM) decided not to kill in spite of that plan.

Basically 4mask's best ability was redirect (since it can make the mafia kill themselves and doesn't hurt townies), any day 7 plan should have involved trying to scare the mafia into not killing with it.  Or just having Toaster shoot someone and then lynching, since otherwise there'd be a risk of going into a 3-man lylo with a daykilling mafia.
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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #514 on: April 29, 2014, 09:16:03 pm »

To be fair NQT's night seven plan was equally bad.  It basically amounted to "have 4maskwolf die if he's not mafia".  It's essentially a miracle that Toaster (or any other hypothetical KM) decided not to kill in spite of that plan.

Basically 4mask's best ability was redirect (since it can make the mafia kill themselves and doesn't hurt townies), any day 7 plan should have involved trying to scare the mafia into not killing with it.  Or just having Toaster shoot someone and then lynching, since otherwise there'd be a risk of going into a 3-man lylo with a daykilling mafia.
I was banking on him not remembering the no-lynch rules.

And I was exactly right.  As proven by his previous posts on the matter.

GODDAMN IT CHEESE.

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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #515 on: April 29, 2014, 09:18:55 pm »

Don't push the blame on the end. Look at the how the whole thing unraveled before...playing the blame game, please.  :-\
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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #516 on: April 29, 2014, 09:20:06 pm »

I'm frankly amazed I didn't die in the night, honestly.  I was kinda hoping that someone would be foolish enough to try a Toaster kill on the following grounds:
If I guard him, I would die.  If I don't, he dies, everyone blames me.

But I had lied about the power of my guard, which would have killed the poor schmuck who tried it.

I also lied about my one-shot abilities and my role, in order to make myself seem less of a threat.

I even had my next role picked out...

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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #517 on: April 29, 2014, 09:21:40 pm »

Then it becomes an almost literal WIFOM game of who shoots versus redirecting.
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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #518 on: April 29, 2014, 09:21:56 pm »

Why did you really kill me, NQT.
You didn't even ask me anything.
That is so unlike you.
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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #519 on: April 29, 2014, 09:22:46 pm »

Then it becomes an almost literal WIFOM game of who shoots versus redirecting.
Yeah, but I never revealed it to specifically AVOID being killed.

Why didn't you kill me?

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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #520 on: April 29, 2014, 09:23:41 pm »

I was the last person to die.
I didn't die a single time until the end.

And I never even got a shot at being the King.

...But I got to save Tiru, so I'm happy as a clam.
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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #521 on: April 29, 2014, 09:24:10 pm »

Other things that baffle me about round 4:
- The kills on both Tiruin and Ottofar.  The one on Tiruin was supposed to be due to the fact that she might be the daykiller, and the one on Ottofar was because he was the daykiller.  Why is that a scumtell?  Why would a KM with a huge advantage (being able to decide 2/3rds of the kills per cycle) want to throw that away entirely, except as a really bizarre act of WIFOM?  I also don't see why the Ottofar kill had to be made so hastily, he had already fired his shot.
- Why did 4mask go along with a plan that basically only worked if he was scum, and which was proposed by someone who he thought was scum?  A plan that would almost certainly result in his death?  And what's more, a plan that would expose his lie to someone else who he thought was town and put him into a 1v1 with another townie if he didn't die?
- Why did no-one even discuss the possibility of using redirect?
- Why did NQT want to no lynch even though he was clearly aware of the dangers of 3-man situations with scum daykillers?  What did he think a no lynch would accomplish, particularly on day 8?

Really I think mastahcheese's daykill on 4mask was the only justifiable one in the entire round, I don't think I'd be able to see 4mask as town either.

I was banking on him not remembering the no-lynch rules.
Even though ToonyMan posted a reminder on the previous day?  I mean I guess that had a very tiny chance of working but it could be broken by Toaster remembering at any point.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2014, 09:26:06 pm by Leafsnail »
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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #522 on: April 29, 2014, 09:25:14 pm »

I was the last person to die.
I didn't die a single time until the end.

And I never even got a shot at being the King.

...But I got to save Tiru, so I'm happy as a clam.
You saved the first round, dude. Then IG came in and swiped the suspect list. :D
That's a good save.

Other things that baffle me about round 4:
- The kills on both Tiruin and Ottofar.  The one on Tiruin was supposed to be due to the fact that she might be the daykiller, and the one on Ottofar was because he was the daykiller.  Why is that a scumtell?  Why would a KM with a huge advantage (being able to decide 2/3rds of the kills per cycle) want to throw that away entirely, except as a really bizarre act of WIFOM?  I also don't see why the Ottofar kill had to be made so hastily, he had already fired his shot.
...Seriously 'justified'?
ANYONE COULD BE THE DAYKILLER AND THE CASE ON ME IS JUSTIFIED?!
Good gravy. :/
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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #523 on: April 29, 2014, 09:27:03 pm »

Your kill wasn't justified at all, Tiruin.
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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!
« Reply #524 on: April 29, 2014, 09:27:07 pm »

By "justified" I meant "that's how NQT tried to justify it when sending it in".  I don't think it was actually a good kill.
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