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Author Topic: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Game Over!  (Read 55354 times)

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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Day 7
« Reply #420 on: April 26, 2014, 02:44:19 pm »

Posting later, but cheese for now
I'd love to hear your reasoning for this.
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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Day 7
« Reply #421 on: April 26, 2014, 03:24:13 pm »

Posting later, but cheese for now
I'd love to hear your reasoning for this.
I'm sure you would.  Unvote.

That was my way of avoiding a modkill and challenging Toaster at the same time.

Q AND A TIME WITH 4MASKWOLF!!!!!

4maskwolf 3.0: You frelling scumbucket, you. But anyway, what's your plan for this round?
Language, scumbiscuit.

My plan is to play the game and get the scum killed by any means necessary.

And yours?

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Everyone:
How will the day start change the strategy of the game?
This will actually make it harder to find scum today as there's more people to pick from and no night information gained.

Have you picked another pro-scum role again?
Rolefishing, now are you?  No answers for you.  You should know better than that.

Everyone: Please target me with actions tonight.
No.  You are probably a radiant or something equally silly.  No targeting for you.

4mask:
Everyone:
How will the day start change the strategy of the game?
Massclaim D1 is a worse idea, since we don't have any information yet. Also, assuming normal 1 kill per night, it means we won't be put into Mylo, which is nice.

Do you think that "not being a day 1 person" gives you an excuse to play badly on day 1?
Nope.  Are you saying I play badly on day 1?

4mask:
I asked a general question because I don't have anything to go on.  I'm not a day one person, you could say.  I come into my own on the subsequent days, particularly in role heavy games.

How does this affect your play in a game that is unlikely to go beyond three days?  (In a round, at least)
Dunno.  I guess we'll have to see.

Master Cheese Maker: Do you consider it an advantage or a disadvantage to have a role with known and limited powers?

Neither Here Nor There: Rolefishing is all well and good, but can wait till tomorrow.  Why must you rolefish today?  And never reveal your own role, I might note.  If you are going to rolefish, claim your role first.

Sheep of the Rain: Do you have a role you want to claim?

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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Day 7
« Reply #422 on: April 26, 2014, 03:40:28 pm »

4maskwolf 3.0: You frelling scumbucket, you. But anyway, what's your plan for this round?
Language, scumbiscuit.

My plan is to play the game and get the scum killed by any means necessary.

And yours?
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Master Cheese Maker: Do you consider it an advantage or a disadvantage to have a role with known and limited powers?
My plan is to kick ass and chew bubblegum.
I suppose that lynching the scum would accomplish this goal.

I think that having my role known is a good thing, because it gives people one less thing to be paranoid over, so they can focus on finding the scum that would murder us in the facial region.

Also, you unvoted me when I provided the slightest bit of pressure.
A pressure so slight, it's equivalent to a mouse squeaking.
What have you got to fear, other than fear itself, wolf?
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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Day 7
« Reply #423 on: April 26, 2014, 03:42:25 pm »

I think we can break this game.

I am a Network Robot. Any action that hits me will be given to every other player.

Actually, this could probably be confirmed if Mastahcheese pardoned me.

NQT:
Sheep: my 'role fishing' won the game for town the round before last; your vote on me makes no sense.
I wouldn't say it won the game, and just because it worked once doesn't mean it isn't scummy. But unvote anyway.

MastahCheese:
Posting later, but cheese for now
I'd love to hear your reasoning for this.
You seem pretty jumpy about a random vote in random vote stage.

And you're rolefishing too.
What kind of scum role do you have, biscuit?

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TheWetSheep 2.0: So who do you plan on killing tonight?
Nobody, since I can't kill. What kind of question is this?
A question to be answered, obviously.
So you don't plan on lynching, either?
How do you draw that from what I posted? And from how I answered NQT's question?

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You seem pretty invested in this game - invested enough to bother to write out everybody's full title and version. Why?
No, I copy-and-pasted from the list of people who rejoined the game.
If anything, it was lazy.
Why are you looking into this so hard? Trying to find something to incriminate me with?
Yes. That's what RVS is for.


4mask:
Nope.  Are you saying I play badly on day 1?
No, but you are:
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I asked a general question because I don't have anything to go on.  I'm not a day one person, you could say.  I come into my own on the subsequent days, particularly in role heavy games.

Toaster:
Sheep:
Everyone: Please target me with actions tonight.

PGO?
No. How does that in any way make sense?

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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Day 7
« Reply #424 on: April 26, 2014, 03:48:11 pm »

4maskwolf 3.0: You frelling scumbucket, you. But anyway, what's your plan for this round?
Language, scumbiscuit.

My plan is to play the game and get the scum killed by any means necessary.

And yours?
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Master Cheese Maker: Do you consider it an advantage or a disadvantage to have a role with known and limited powers?
My plan is to kick ass and chew bubblegum.
I suppose that lynching the scum would accomplish this goal.

I think that having my role known is a good thing, because it gives people one less thing to be paranoid over, so they can focus on finding the scum that would murder us in the facial region.

Also, you unvoted me when I provided the slightest bit of pressure.
A pressure so slight, it's equivalent to a mouse squeaking.
What have you got to fear, other than fear itself, wolf?
I have nothing to fear, for I am fear itself.

lots of questions and answers
You missed my question.

While I'm not entirely surprised, I'm still not targeting you.  The last thing we need is to give the scum more power.

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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Day 7
« Reply #425 on: April 26, 2014, 03:50:58 pm »

I think we can break this game.

I am a Network Robot. Any action that hits me will be given to every other player.
Can anyone confirm that you have this power before we all throw things at you?
How do we know that your power isn't to wretchedly murder anyone that targets you, and you're trying to get us all killed?

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TheWetSheep 2.0: So who do you plan on killing tonight?
Nobody, since I can't kill. What kind of question is this?
A question to be answered, obviously.
So you don't plan on lynching, either?
How do you draw that from what I posted? And from how I answered NQT's question?
Why are you bringing NQT into this, when I never mentioned him? Why are you trying to back up your statement by pulling from irrelevant sources?

MastahCheese:
Posting later, but cheese for now
I'd love to hear your reasoning for this.
You seem pretty jumpy about a random vote in random vote stage.
Who says it's random?

And you're rolefishing too.
What kind of scum role do you have, biscuit?
You come out and say "EVERYONE TARGET ME" with no explanation, and you expect people to not question this?
That has to be the laziest way to try to set someone up I've ever seen, if that's what you're doing.
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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Day 7
« Reply #426 on: April 26, 2014, 03:55:05 pm »

*relevant point is the stuff about randomness*
Did I not explain why I did it.  I did.

Also, you can confirm what he is, Cheese.  Pardon him.  We'll see about his claim.

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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Day 7
« Reply #427 on: April 26, 2014, 04:09:47 pm »

Mastahcheese: As 4mask said, you can confirm me. I actually mentioned it in the post you quoted, but you snipped it out.

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TheWetSheep 2.0: So who do you plan on killing tonight?
Nobody, since I can't kill. What kind of question is this?
A question to be answered, obviously.
So you don't plan on lynching, either?
How do you draw that from what I posted? And from how I answered NQT's question?
Why are you bringing NQT into this, when I never mentioned him? Why are you trying to back up your statement by pulling from irrelevant sources?

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Do you think we should lynch everyday?
I'd say lynching strategy is pretty much the same as any other game - do it unless certain circumstances come up: Mylo, role shenanigans, game-breaking strategies, etc.
It's not irrelevant, I'm saying that I said something that directly contradicted what you were asking me about. And you didn't answer my question.

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MastahCheese:
Posting later, but cheese for now
I'd love to hear your reasoning for this.
You seem pretty jumpy about a random vote in random vote stage.
Who says it's random?
He didn't say "reasoning will follow", and you know about the antilurk policy that forces people to do just that. And it's in random vote stage.

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And you're rolefishing too.
What kind of scum role do you have, biscuit?
You come out and say "EVERYONE TARGET ME" with no explanation, and you expect people to not question this?
That has to be the laziest way to try to set someone up I've ever seen, if that's what you're doing.
OK. You're right, it's not a good reason to vote you, but it wasn't my main point.

4mask:
lots of questions and answers
You missed my question.
You mean where you ask if I wanted to claim anything? I thought I answered that by claiming something.

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While I'm not entirely surprised, I'm still not targeting you.  The last thing we need is to give the scum more power.
Fair enough if your ability only helps Mafia and not Town. But remember the Mafia can only take one action per night, so most abilities would be better off in the hands of all townies and the mafia than only one townie.

It's mostly useful for setting up kill or inspect loops.

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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Day 7
« Reply #428 on: April 26, 2014, 04:27:42 pm »

Alright, I can get with a pardon on TheWetSheep, if I die, then everyone will know who to kill.

And if it works, then we'll end up with someone likely dying in the night, and it'll be just as if we started on a Night 0.
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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Day 7
« Reply #429 on: April 26, 2014, 05:36:07 pm »

You don't need to lynch me - just sending in the action should do it.

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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Day 7
« Reply #430 on: April 26, 2014, 05:37:22 pm »

OK, just noticed I got the pardon ability, so everyone else should have it too.

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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Day 7
« Reply #431 on: April 26, 2014, 05:58:17 pm »

Low time, but I will say two things:

1) I got the ability
2) Giving everyone day pardon is a hilariously stupid idea.
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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Day 7
« Reply #432 on: April 26, 2014, 06:52:45 pm »

Low time, but I will say two things:

1) I got the ability
2) Giving everyone day pardon is a hilariously stupid idea.
PFP

How is it stupid? o_O
We have 1 foe. The only problem is if people just go WOOOOPARDONFREELY
Which is not a good idea. Which means Town is doing it if they hit scum with it.
...Which would lead to a very nice combination on how people will plea under the lynch--which really helps in scumhunting.

I got the ability too.
...
Seeing the activity rate, I'm real glad nobody has a daykill :^ [speculation]
(I mean, really. Town > Daykill TWS > Everyone dies if/unless KM has Nexus [and even then] and if KM > Daykill...)
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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Day 7
« Reply #433 on: April 26, 2014, 07:03:00 pm »

Low time, but I will say two things:

1) I got the ability
2) Giving everyone day pardon is a hilariously stupid idea.
PFP

How is it stupid? o_O
We have 1 foe. The only problem is if people just go WOOOOPARDONFREELY
Which is not a good idea. Which means Town is doing it if they hit scum with it.
...Which would lead to a very nice combination on how people will plea under the lynch--which really helps in scumhunting.

I got the ability too.
...
Seeing the activity rate, I'm real glad nobody has a daykill :^ [speculation]
(I mean, really. Town > Daykill TWS > Everyone dies if/unless KM has Nexus [and even then] and if KM > Daykill...)
LOLZ EVERYONE HAVING A DAYKILL WOULD BE AWESOME IN ALL THE WORST WAYS.

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Re: King of the Mafia 4 - Round 4 - Day 7
« Reply #434 on: April 26, 2014, 09:00:15 pm »

NQT:
Toaster- You didn't really get what I was trying toconvey. In the absense of any other reason, getting rid of the most pro-scum player is sensible. Do you think this belief makes me more likely to be the King?

If we have absolutely no other reason, we have failed at scumhunting.  You might as well lynch at random at this point.  I can't say for certain that it does; you could just be being a derp over it.


Mastahcheese:
Toasty
Mastahcheese:
Toaster 3.0: This puts you at two votes away from a hammer. How do you feel about this?

Unconcerned.
SOUNDS LIKE A SCUM THING TO SAY
WHY AREN'T YOU BOTHERING TO ASK ME ANYTHING BACK?
DO YOU EVEN HUNT, BRO?

You can't bait me.  I'd ask you something back if I had a question for you.


4mask:
Posting later, but cheese for now
I'd love to hear your reasoning for this.
I'm sure you would.  Unvote.

That was my way of avoiding a modkill and challenging Toaster at the same time.

If you back off it before I even have a chance to respond, it's a pretty terrible challenge.


Sheep:
Toaster:
Sheep:
Everyone: Please target me with actions tonight.

PGO?
No. How does that in any way make sense?

It does if you're scum (kill off lots of players.)  That said, it's a bit irrelevant now.


Tiruin:
How is it stupid? o_O
We have 1 foe. The only problem is if people just go WOOOOPARDONFREELY
Which is not a good idea. Which means Town is doing it if they hit scum with it.
...Which would lead to a very nice combination on how people will plea under the lynch--which really helps in scumhunting.

I rather suspect people will be firing it off a lot.  This will make scumhunting difficult since it's hard to trace who did an actual pardon.  Scum can pardon townies for towncred.  Scum gets to choose more kills since lynches will happen less.  Day discussion will be hampered because people will try to relynch the same person they did yesterday.  It's an interesting experiment, but I don't see it as a town-friendly one.


A mass daykill would be... I have no idea.  I *think* bad since the scum with a daykill is a dangerous thing, but we could potentially wrap it up without ever going to night.
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