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Duke Knight's Momentum is up for revision? Which version of the skill would you prefer?

Current one, unchanged.
+4 AS and +5 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.
+2 AS and +3 DMG on Player Phase, with additional +2 AS and +2 DMG when moving 4 spaces or more.
+1 AS and +1.5 DMG for each space moved up to 4 spaces.
Current one but AS bonus is converted to DR from the end of the Player Phase until the next one.
I don't know but I want to see the results.

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« Reply #3795 on: August 11, 2017, 08:58:33 pm »

How about additional critical resistance?
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« Reply #3796 on: August 12, 2017, 09:11:56 am »

I gave them crit since criteye but I could also give them damage or AS like musou or jousting does. I tried looking at the games but it gives them Impale which is just a super crit :v

Maybe 4x damage on crits or is it unnecessary?
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« Reply #3797 on: August 12, 2017, 09:16:19 am »

Why would a shieldwall boost crit, of all things? Sounds like a defense booster.
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« Reply #3798 on: August 12, 2017, 09:18:56 am »

Exactly. To my mind/way of thinking: shieldwall = focusing on using the shield to protect self and allies = attacks hit the shield, not the person, so no HP loss = Evade+ skill. Maybe Evade +5 or 10 for self and all adjacent allies?
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« Reply #3799 on: August 12, 2017, 09:28:35 am »

+5 for self, +10 for adjacent allies?
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« Reply #3800 on: August 12, 2017, 09:34:27 am »

Hero and Charisma already boost evade tho, the DEF boost is a bit more interesting. Otherwise I don't really know what to do with them. They have crit eye, S lances and that's it :v
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« Reply #3801 on: August 12, 2017, 09:36:34 am »

Well, when you put it that way, a bit of extra DR is preferable to increasing crit just by not dropping your shield.
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« Reply #3802 on: August 12, 2017, 09:37:58 am »

Well, when you put it that way, a bit of extra DR is preferable to increasing crit just by not dropping your shield.
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« Reply #3803 on: August 12, 2017, 09:41:35 am »

Bleh.

So 5 DEF for adjacents and 1 DR for each adjacent to the Sentinel?
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« Reply #3804 on: August 12, 2017, 09:54:35 am »

Sorry if it seems like we're shitting on your idea but it's like... I dunno, it just doesn't make any logical sense for a basic, purely defensive item to increase your ability to kick dudes in the nuts. Unless the idea is utilizing the Dark Souls parry mechanic, but even then that would be better served as a sort of LOTW-style skill, where the character forgoes their attack to get increased crit chance on counter attacks for the round (still seems pretty powerful though >.>).

Anyway I'm not good with exact numbers, but that sounds OK-ish.
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« Reply #3805 on: August 12, 2017, 10:15:42 am »

Well if the point of contention is the term shield wall, why not make it spear wall? Especially considering that the skill requires adjacent Lance users.

I think the Sentinel having more offense based skill compared to the alternative General defensive skills makes good gameplay sense.

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« Reply #3806 on: August 12, 2017, 10:41:05 am »

Anything based off the soldier trainee, the most defensively-focused of the trainee classes, is bound to focus at least somewhat on defense.

Anyway, Sentinels have Critical Eye. That already makes them more offensively-oriented than Generals or what-have-you. But since Generals are focused entirely on making themselves as tonk as possible, it makes sense in my mind for a Sentinel's defensive focus to spread out a little to his/her allies.
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« Reply #3807 on: August 13, 2017, 01:57:06 am »

Ye, if you still to that ability at least change its name. Like Thousand Spears or something that doesn't sound defensive.

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« Reply #3808 on: August 13, 2017, 02:51:47 am »

Ye, if you still to that ability at least change its name. Like Thousand Spears or something that doesn't sound defensive.

I was thinking something similar except all i would do is replace shield with spear in the name, and tadahhh

edit: unless there is already an ability called that, in which case my bad
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« Reply #3809 on: August 13, 2017, 01:19:47 pm »

Also FEF3 remake is a thing and it's recruiting :v

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=165192.0
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