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Author Topic: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia - GAME OVER - TOWN VICTORY!  (Read 97550 times)

Tiruin

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Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia - Day 2 - An Abundance of Life
« Reply #195 on: March 26, 2014, 08:59:35 am »

. . .And?
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Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia - Day 2 - An Abundance of Life
« Reply #196 on: March 26, 2014, 09:00:33 am »

You did not.
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Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia - Day 2 - An Abundance of Life
« Reply #197 on: March 26, 2014, 09:01:32 am »

...Yes, I did not. So...

I do believe you're presenting this with snippets at a time, so I'm poking you forward. :v

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Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia - Day 2 - An Abundance of Life
« Reply #198 on: March 26, 2014, 09:05:30 am »

You were clearly attempting to mislead the town into thinking you had an inspection.  Which is a thing that would be advantageous to a mafia player, but not to a town player.  Basically I am asking you why you lied yesterday.
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Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia - Day 2 - An Abundance of Life
« Reply #199 on: March 26, 2014, 09:07:00 am »

OH!

Why would you inflate Kill?  Since mafia have access to the infinitely better Convert for one more it's basically a town ability.

Quickpost

P-Luke is innocent.

Also what's up with this post, Tiruin?
I believe I get your thought process on the moment of that. Yeah, I guess part of that intent was to make it look like an inspect result (but not the foremost idea behind it) due to the brevity...but then apparently lolhammer.


Query: Out of all the people present, why am I your sole focus on D2 start?



Tawarochir:
Um, thanks?

Seriously, though, he already had like six votes on him, he was pretty much doomed anyway.


Why say you this, Tiruin?

COULD THE TWO OF YOU BE IN-LEAGUE SCUMSACKS?
Protip: 99% of the playerbase considers anything in the post as something you said, even strikethrough-words.

So why do you believe him doomed over anything else, Tawa? In my language, Tawa means laugh, or to laugh. My cynical side is imagining you laughing as an ulterior motive in that context.

Next: Explain your last two statements and how you came about that line of thinking.

PPE: ...Mislead is a nice subtlety. Why're you being passive-aggressive//subtly accusing?
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Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia - Day 2 - An Abundance of Life
« Reply #200 on: March 26, 2014, 09:07:39 am »

Addendum: Lied?
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You're really jumping to conclusions here. Could you in the very least be more detailed in your posts? Because you know that I'll keep on asking you afterwards.
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Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia - Day 2 - An Abundance of Life
« Reply #201 on: March 26, 2014, 09:09:42 am »

Eh. Taking no-vote and hide is literally making yourself the most useless possible role in this game. Coward is an apt name.
And he wasted a lynch. I'm unimpressed.


(NQT: do millers lose their miller flaw if they are converted?)
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Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia - Day 2 - An Abundance of Life
« Reply #202 on: March 26, 2014, 09:12:16 am »

(NQT: do millers lose their miller flaw if they are converted?)
That'd be cheap. :v

*poke poke*
Insight, Tacky tack? :O Could I ask your review of today and yesterday?


Also huge post coming up due to me having my USB back without any viruses. Yay!
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Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia - Day 2 - An Abundance of Life
« Reply #203 on: March 26, 2014, 09:15:45 am »

EBWOP because post =/= preview

Why would you like to know, 4mask?
So that you don't screw with things.  Anybody with blatant should be questioned, and the fact that there was no kill last night is highly suspicious.  For what better way to hide in plain sight than to take a blatant convert, because nobody would think the scum would do that, eh, Tiruin.

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Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia - Day 2 - An Abundance of Life
« Reply #204 on: March 26, 2014, 09:16:54 am »

OH!I believe I get your thought process on the moment of that. Yeah, I guess part of that intent was to make it look like an inspect result (but not the foremost idea behind it) due to the brevity...but then apparently lolhammer.
OK, so you're saying you were trying to mislead the town.
Addendum: Lied?
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You're really jumping to conclusions here. Could you in the very least be more detailed in your posts? Because you know that I'll keep on asking you afterwards.
...And then in your next post say you weren't.  Look, a post just saying "X is town" clearly, clearly implies that you have an inspection result that suggests someone is town.  You've played in games with cops before.  You know this.  So why did you do it?  You didn't explain in your previous post.

Query: Out of all the people present, why am I your sole focus on D2 start?
Because you basically claimed to have some kind of day inspection on day one and then the night one results proved you didn't have one.  A direct contradiction like that is worth pursuing.
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Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia - Day 2 - An Abundance of Life
« Reply #205 on: March 26, 2014, 09:22:21 am »

Tack
(NQT: do millers lose their miller flaw if they are converted?)

As with here:
Miller and Convert would be lost if given to a player of the wrong alignment.
Miller and Convert are the only alignment specific roles. A converted Miller ceases to be a Miller.
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Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia - Day 2 - An Abundance of Life
« Reply #206 on: March 26, 2014, 09:44:03 am »

For what better way to hide in plain sight than to take a blatant convert, because nobody would think the scum would do that, eh, Tiruin.
WIFOM

I find it pretty likely for Tiruin to be scum.
Indeed Tiruin was who I was nvestigating last night.
But the fact I still have my points, and as day actions resolve immediately, means that she obviously isn't whichever scum is running recycle/DaySap, so I think in this case it's more "the squeaky townie gets the noose".
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Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia - Day 2 - An Abundance of Life
« Reply #207 on: March 26, 2014, 09:55:32 am »

EBWOP because post =/= preview

Why would you like to know, 4mask?
So that you don't screw with things.  Anybody with blatant should be questioned, and the fact that there was no kill last night is highly suspicious.  For what better way to hide in plain sight than to take a blatant convert, because nobody would think the scum would do that, eh, Tiruin.
I'll be frank with you--I suspect you muchly due to the content of how you approached the matter, as well as how you did your efforts of the yesterday. You give me a declarative with which I've nothing to reply to but, no I didn't, or more likely, what sense is this?

Really, 4mask. If you're going to issue an assumption as apparent as that, make some space unless you're really dead-set in your ideas. This is what got you off in Jim's BM. I do not like how its being a near-replica of it now.




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OH!I believe I get your thought process on the moment of that. Yeah, I guess part of that intent was to make it look like an inspect result (but not the foremost idea behind it) due to the brevity...but then apparently lolhammer.
OK, so you're saying you were trying to mislead the town.
Addendum: Lied?
...
You're really jumping to conclusions here. Could you in the very least be more detailed in your posts? Because you know that I'll keep on asking you afterwards.
...And then in your next post say you weren't.  Look, a post just saying "X is town" clearly, clearly implies that you have an inspection result that suggests someone is town.  You've played in games with cops before.  You know this.  So why did you do it?  You didn't explain in your previous post.

Query: Out of all the people present, why am I your sole focus on D2 start?
Because you basically claimed to have some kind of day inspection on day one and then the night one results proved you didn't have one.  A direct contradiction like that is worth pursuing.
...You're insinuating negatives over anything else, huh. But matters first, explicitly town?

Interesting wording.

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...And then in your next post say you weren't.  Look, a post just saying "X is town" clearly, clearly implies that you have an inspection result that suggests someone is town.  You've played in games with cops before.  You know this.  So why did you do it?  You didn't explain in your previous post.
Nice moves dude. If you bothered reading, you'd note that what you're saying right here is contradictory to what I exactly said. I'm unsure if its your parser or whatever but you're really misinterpreting in a scummy way.

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You've played in games with cops before.  You know this.  So why did you do it?  You didn't explain in your previous post.
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Also huge post coming up due to me having my USB back without any viruses. Yay!
And along that note: I did it because it was parallel to my notes that I took while away. Check my post-count, that's like my second-ish post that existed. What're you trying to imply by all that, for that matter?

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Because you basically claimed to have some kind of day inspection on day one and then the night one results proved you didn't have one.  A direct contradiction like that is worth pursuing.
Uh, no. You basically inferred that I have some kind of day inspection. Claiming it as my words leads greatly to a misinterpretation on your part, and a miscommunication to the public eye, which as a holistic ideal does not make any sense in that regard.

PPE: BLARGHFISH
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Indeed Tiruin was who I was nvestigating last night.
But the fact I still have my points, and as day actions resolve immediately, means that she obviously isn't whichever scum is running recycle/DaySap, so I think in this case it's more "the squeaky townie gets the noose".
I did say I picked Miller. Now onto that argument with Jack A T given the amount of PPE's I'm getting.





...This wasn't that long now that I see it. Bluh.
Common practice for millers is to claim day 1 (or at least before you are inspected).  This means that any plain alignment cops (which I hope nobody is, because they suck here, but I recognize someone may have picked it) know exactly what you inspect as and don't have to waste an inspect on you.  Scum can fakeclaim millers somewhat easily in most games, which means that miller claimers are not exempt from suspicion (not even close).

This game is unusual, in that townies could choose to be a millers for an in-game, detectable, benefit.  In addition, there are several inspector types that can find millers or signs of said milleriness (scanners, counters, ability cops, infallible alignment cops, and possibly flavour inspectors).  Thus, there was little reason for townies not to take miller, and miller claims are unusually hard to fake.

Of course, there are ways to interfere with miller inspections (not going to list them, but they're not that hard to figure out), but those take points, time, and actions.

PPE: What Leafsnail said, and what 4maskwolf said about millers.
COUNTER-POINT

Common practice in regular games for players who are millers are that they should claim D1. This is an irregular game--though as of note, people have the choice to be a miller for a bonus point DURING THE START ONLY, compared to any other game: for benevolence or increase in abilities. The context, as far as I recall on this unspoken rule is on the idea between...Bookthras, before?

Claiming miller, as scum, is really hard to push forward with--I do recall that the unanimous consensus of the B12 Mafia-playerbase voiced their matters on this (I remember it a game with Hapah, Dariush and the rest where scum won, and the two mentioned in this parenthesis were the scum) that miller claiming is a towntell-forwarding what you say here, Jack.

Your second statement follows through, however this is where my opinion diverges. Miller = +1 point; both for scum or for town. In that sense it is a player choice as opposed to a moderator decision in which most games this rule is enforced, is announced.  Counterpoint to that is the Innocent auto, which takes -1 from the point base, which means a detriment to scum. We can all agree that its a thing only scum would do, aye? I say that the claiming of miller does not directly say a town-point on their note due to the bonus it confers given that context of a player choice.

Though I'm a miller.
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Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia - Day 2 - An Abundance of Life
« Reply #208 on: March 26, 2014, 09:58:24 am »

For what better way to hide in plain sight than to take a blatant convert, because nobody would think the scum would do that, eh, Tiruin.
WIFOM

I find it pretty likely for Tiruin to be scum.
Indeed Tiruin was who I was nvestigating last night.
But the fact I still have my points, and as day actions resolve immediately, means that she obviously isn't whichever scum is running recycle/DaySap, so I think in this case it's more "the squeaky townie gets the noose".
...Scum, explicitly? You suspect scum, compared to anyone else and without any...'seemingly' or that kind of word (well, that means the recycle thing--it could also be town target [but a bad one at that sans any details on the recycle-r side])?

Also, what? Reword on the last sentence please. Why did you target me, by the way?
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Re: Choose-Your-Own-Mafia - Day 2 - An Abundance of Life
« Reply #209 on: March 26, 2014, 10:09:47 am »

Announcement
I forgot to add one of the blatant announcements to the D2 start post. This has now been amended.
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