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Author Topic: Gods and Mortals II OOC (From the darkness, a turn creeps out...)  (Read 75700 times)

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Re: Gods and Mortals II OOC (An update is finally here!)
« Reply #510 on: April 17, 2014, 10:54:55 am »

You know, Xantalos never did spend acts last turn to make it so the other gods wouldn't know what he did.
Thus, everyone knows that the Trickster is spreading magic. And what does this imply?
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Re: Gods and Mortals II OOC (An update is finally here!)
« Reply #511 on: April 17, 2014, 11:05:16 am »

You know, Xantalos never did spend acts last turn to make it so the other gods wouldn't know what he did.
Thus, everyone knows that the Trickster is spreading magic. And what does this imply?

Actually, all they know is that he spread magic this time.  His statement shifts the blame of magic originally showing up to An Draoi.
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Re: Gods and Mortals II OOC (An update is finally here!)
« Reply #512 on: April 17, 2014, 11:09:39 am »

Assuming people believe him. And, well, Draoi hasn't been visibly spending far less power than he's been able to.
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Re: Gods and Mortals II OOC (An update is finally here!)
« Reply #513 on: April 17, 2014, 11:18:23 am »

Assuming people believe him. And, well, Draoi hasn't been visibly spending far less power than he's been able to.
I'm blaming him creating the 100 and keeping all their magic and worship to himself like a fat capitalist pig and making myself out to be a benevolent socialist god sharing it with the masses.
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Re: Gods and Mortals II OOC (An update is finally here!)
« Reply #514 on: April 17, 2014, 11:37:43 am »

Well...again, one god has been apparently doing nothing until now, another has been spending a good fraction of his acts (all? I haven't been paying that much attention). The second is accused by the first of having created magic, which the first is eager to spread. Also, the first one is literally named the Trickster.
The conclusion is obvious.
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Re: Gods and Mortals II OOC (An update is finally here!)
« Reply #515 on: April 17, 2014, 11:50:27 am »

Well...again, one god has been apparently doing nothing until now, another has been spending a good fraction of his acts (all? I haven't been paying that much attention). The second is accused by the first of having created magic, which the first is eager to spread. Also, the first one is literally named the Trickster.

Actually, they don't know his name is the Trickster.  He introduced himself as something else, and his current intentions could likely be interpreted as having waited for an opportunity to make a political jump in terms of favor of the mortals.
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Re: Gods and Mortals II OOC (An update is finally here!)
« Reply #516 on: April 17, 2014, 12:14:41 pm »

Alright, let me put it this way.

You know two people of pretty good means, say an annual income of a million dollars. The first hasn't spent a cent as far as anyone can tell, the second spends much more freely. You discover that a multimillion-dollar, um, spaceship or something has been built in secret. The first guy promptly builds more spaceships so more people can buy them, and accuses the second of having built the first spaceship. Which is more suspicious?

(P.S. What's the point of a name no one knows?)
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Re: Gods and Mortals II OOC (An update is finally here!)
« Reply #517 on: April 17, 2014, 12:49:07 pm »

The mortals don't know I'm far more powerful than Draoi though.
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Re: Gods and Mortals II OOC (An update is finally here!)
« Reply #518 on: April 17, 2014, 12:54:20 pm »

(P.S. What's the point of a name no one knows?)

I didn't say that no one knows him by a name.  I just said they don't know him by the name 'the Trickster'.  They know him by the name, 'the Economist'.

Also, the point can be seen in any superhero/supervillan comic, spies, witness protection, etc.

Alright, let me put it this way.

You know two people of pretty good means, say an annual income of a million dollars. The first hasn't spent a cent as far as anyone can tell, the second spends much more freely. You discover that a multimillion-dollar, um, spaceship or something has been built in secret. The first guy promptly builds more spaceships so more people can buy them, and accuses the second of having built the first spaceship. Which is more suspicious?

This game is one of politics, not just 'money'.  In politics, people primarily remain with their constituents, in this case, what they have created.  Since the gods are neither Omnipotent or Omnipresent and the field of play is infinite in size, while your statement could prove true, they could just as easily suspect that 'the Economist' has carefully built up his own domain in a far off area so it wouldn't be messed with, and, since the area that would be required to search is infinite, they would be unable to find it without acts, and if those acts are spent, the area could be behind a shield too powerful for their acts to pierce, and since the god that manages to break that would have spent up acts searching and breaking a barrier would not be able to exploit the opportunity before their opposition gets in there and messes around first.  Since no one desires that their enemy gets to affect a location first, they would consider that a waste of acts, which would be disadvantageous on other fronts, so it wouldn't be done.

To increase the illusion that this was done, 'the Economist' could construct an area before anyone searches for the area, which would lead to the belief it was always there and give him a fairly effective power base.
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Re: Gods and Mortals II OOC (An update is finally here!)
« Reply #519 on: April 17, 2014, 01:10:22 pm »

The mortals don't know I'm far more powerful than Draoi though.
This isn't a Court of the Mortals. The gods, however, know that you're getting a fair amount of power...

(P.S. What's the point of a name no one knows?)
I didn't say that no one knows him by a name.  I just said they don't know him by the name 'the Trickster'.  They know him by the name, 'the Economist'.
Also, the point can be seen in any superhero/supervillan comic, spies, witness protection, etc.
Not so. Those people all have people who know them by their real names--and they didn't give themselves names to be kept in secret.

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This game is one of politics, not just 'money'.  In politics, people primarily remain with their constituents, in this case, what they have created.  Since the gods are neither Omnipotent or Omnipresent and the field of play is infinite in size, while your statement could prove true, they could just as easily suspect that 'the Economist' has carefully built up his own domain in a far off area so it wouldn't be messed with, and, since the area that would be required to search is infinite, they would be unable to find it without acts, and if those acts are spent, the area could be behind a shield too powerful for their acts to pierce, and since the god that manages to break that would have spent up acts searching and breaking a barrier would not be able to exploit the opportunity before their opposition gets in there and messes around first.  Since no one desires that their enemy gets to affect a location first, they would consider that a waste of acts, which would be disadvantageous on other fronts, so it wouldn't be done.
To increase the illusion that this was done, 'the Economist' could construct an area before anyone searches for the area, which would lead to the belief it was always there and give him a fairly effective power base.
If you can be completely unaware of Acts without needing to hide them, why spend acts to hide them? If "the Economist" wasn't spending trying to hide his stuff, why are the others unaware of it? If he spent acts hiding it, why?
Your suggestion not only fails to address my main point--why they would suspect someone who had been seen spending most of their power on various things to have spent another significant amount of stuff on what was a concealed action, instead of someone whose only actions have been concealed?
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Re: Gods and Mortals II OOC (An update is finally here!)
« Reply #520 on: April 17, 2014, 03:22:23 pm »

Has everyone forgotten that the Infinite Plane was originally called the Terra Firma?
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Re: Gods and Mortals II OOC (An update is finally here!)
« Reply #521 on: April 17, 2014, 07:34:26 pm »

1. "Kaos". That isn't a name asking for trouble.

2. Can I be a draconic Ascendant? Pretty please?
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Re: Gods and Mortals II OOC (An update is finally here!)
« Reply #522 on: April 17, 2014, 07:36:52 pm »

1. Specters of chaotic origins are sure to have chaotic names

2. Sure. Hell, you can be Kaos if you want if Zan allows it

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Re: Gods and Mortals II OOC (An update is finally here!)
« Reply #523 on: April 17, 2014, 08:19:41 pm »

PrivateNomad, I must thank you.  You have just made it possible for me to do something I was thinking about.  A twinned ascendant, two players sharing a pool of acts and a status (Ascendant, Younger God, Elder God, etc).  Considering the circumstances, the sphere will be Wisdom.  Now which two will I put through this...
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Re: Gods and Mortals II OOC (An update is finally here!)
« Reply #524 on: April 17, 2014, 08:20:15 pm »

You're welcome?
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