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[4maskwolf]

Moving this out of the game thread and to where it actually belongs, yeah this was a randomly-created PUG doing leveling dungeons (I’m doing it to get better accessories for the end-of-base-game story dungeons) and the tank went from one big pull to the next and tugged them all into the boss room while I was low on mana. Without voice comes I had no way of yelling at him or telling the team to back out of the boss chamber and let him die, so we just kind of all died.

And amazingly, that was still the better of the two tanks I got the privilege of playing with today, the other one would just proximity-aggro’ed enemies so when I threw a heal on him they’d all aggro onto me and I’d have to run away

How fast are you at typing? I know it sucks but it's fully possible to type callouts like that in text chat, and you might be suprised how good DPS is at responding to it, especially ranged DPS because they're standing back behind you most of the time and most MMOs have your chat show both in the chat log but also over your character's head.

I'll admit that being fairly new to the game (and the genre in general) I spend most of my time and attention on keeping my healing and DPSing rotation going so I never even really thought of trying to shotcall in the chat during fights. To be fair normal mode dungeons in the base game are generally super easy to run without any real effort on the part of the players involved, unless your tank or healer are really, really incompetent (DPS occasionally but most dungeon bosses don't enrage or have mechanics that the DPS specifically has to deal with so bad DPS just makes things drag).

[Lenglon]

Moving this out of the game thread and to where it actually belongs, yeah this was a randomly-created PUG doing leveling dungeons (I’m doing it to get better accessories for the end-of-base-game story dungeons) and the tank went from one big pull to the next and tugged them all into the boss room while I was low on mana. Without voice comes I had no way of yelling at him or telling the team to back out of the boss chamber and let him die, so we just kind of all died.

And amazingly, that was still the better of the two tanks I got the privilege of playing with today, the other one would just proximity-aggro’ed enemies so when I threw a heal on him they’d all aggro onto me and I’d have to run away

How fast are you at typing? I know it sucks but it's fully possible to type callouts like that in text chat, and you might be suprised how good DPS is at responding to it, especially ranged DPS because they're standing back behind you most of the time and most MMOs have your chat show both in the chat log but also over your character's head.

I'll admit that being fairly new to the game (and the genre in general) I spend most of my time and attention on keeping my healing and DPSing rotation going so I never even really thought of trying to shotcall in the chat during fights. To be fair normal mode dungeons in the base game are generally super easy to run without any real effort on the part of the players involved, unless your tank or healer are really, really incompetent (DPS occasionally but most dungeon bosses don't enrage or have mechanics that the DPS specifically has to deal with so bad DPS just makes things drag).

to be fair, i built up typing speed by chatting and making callouts in text chat in FPS games, so i built up finger-speed and touch-typing long before I touched my first MMO.

[Persus13]

What MMO is this?

[4maskwolf]

We've been sorta talking in vague terms but I've specifically been playing FFXIV.

[Shakerag]

We've been sorta talking in vague terms but I've specifically been playing FFXIV.

Nice.  I'm a casual end-game raider there.

[Persus13]

We've been sorta talking in vague terms but I've specifically been playing FFXIV.

Thanks, I was curious and confused whether or not you'd said it somewhere.

[4maskwolf]

We've been sorta talking in vague terms but I've specifically been playing FFXIV.

Nice.  I'm a casual end-game raider there.

Oh nice! I'm just getting started with it, I'm not even through the Seventh Astral Era questline leading up to Heavensward.

[Lenglon]

We've been sorta talking in vague terms but I've specifically been playing FFXIV.

Nice.  I'm a casual end-game raider there.

Oh nice! I'm just getting started with it, I'm not even through the Seventh Astral Era questline leading up to Heavensward.

Well okay then. Good luck with getting through the pre-Havensward grind, that takes forever. The game picks up the pace after you get through that, they learned their lesson with the expansions and don't give you that kind of massive grind again.

[Shakerag]

We've been sorta talking in vague terms but I've specifically been playing FFXIV.

Nice.  I'm a casual end-game raider there.

Oh nice! I'm just getting started with it, I'm not even through the Seventh Astral Era questline leading up to Heavensward.

Yeah, to temper your expectations ... they did revamp the 1-50 slog and cut out a -ton- of useless side quests, but even then IMO the story doesn't really start getting good until level 40-ish.  50 to HW is going to feel like it takes forever (and it will) but there is some good story intermixed in that part.  Once you hit HW the pacing from there on out is much, much more improved.  And the story just keeps getting better.

[heydude6]

So, I’ve been brainstorming a little and I think I’ve found a way to adapt Secret Hitler for the forums. I’m wondering if I should host it here in the mafia sub or in FG&RP?

What do you guys think? Is there any interest?

Spoiler: What is Secret Hitler (for those who don’t know)? (click to show/hide)

Secret Hitler is a social deduction game consisting of two teams: Fascists and Liberals. Liberals outnumber the fascists, but don’t know who their allies are. Fascists by contrast do, except for one particular fascist designated as Hitler who knows just as little as the liberals.

The two teams compete to win elections and pass government policies that push their ideology’s respective agenda. The goal of the fascists is to pass 3 fascist policies and then get Hitler elected as chancellor. The goal of the liberals is to pass 6 liberal policies or more likely, figure out who Hitler is and assassinate him (which can only be done when certain fascist policies are passed).

Gameplay essentially boils down to figuring out which people you can trust to push your team’s political agenda and then convincing as many people as possible to vote for them. In my experience, the early rounds pass by quickly, but as the fascists progress their agenda and the stakes rise, absentminded voting transitions to passionate debates as players desperately try to avoid voting in Hitler or a president who might assassinate them.

The game plays a little differently from mafia since there’s less player elimination and no role flips on death, but it relies on many of the same skills so I thought it would be more at home on on this subforum

EDIT: For anyone curious about the user-friendly archive, I have pushed the plans back to Christmas. Right now, I'm in a very important period of my career as a budding programmer, and my current priority is to secure an internship for summer. It is a very scary time for me cause this very well may decide my job prospects upon graduation.

EDIT2: So unfortunately there has been a bit of a miscommunication with my family that has resulted in work on the mafia archive being pushed back a week. Expect the User-friendly version to be ready by New Years instead of Christmas.

[hector13]

There was a Secret Hitler game in FG&RP a while ago but it died out.

It is more of a mafia game though.

[notquitethere]

If you run that here, I will play it!

[ToonyMan]

I'd play, sounds like Revolution.

[FallacyofUrist]

Nothing's moving. Should I put up a mini-setup? Five to seven players. Just enough to get things moving again. I'll do some weird shit, probably, but nothing roles-heavy or chaotic, given the circumstances.

[EuchreJack]

Nothing's moving. Should I put up a mini-setup? Five to seven players. Just enough to get things moving again. I'll do some weird shit, probably, but nothing roles-heavy or chaotic, given the circumstances.

No objections from me, but Keep It Simple Sillypants!