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[GreatWyrmGold]

Well, no. Somehow you have 6 AP, even though you should (at 19:00-19:59 GMT) have 5.

Wait, the AP count is updating on the hour, even though the game started 15 minutes after the hour? I should have had one more AP from the previous turn, then.

Also, you don't have to list your loses if you only have 1 unit type, but I would appreciate you doing it anyway. Like this:

Move the ten militia to 12,16(6AP)(lose three militia vs swordman(2D+1D for mountain)

I'll try to remember to do that.

Also, I'm pretty sure you missed a Harvest action somewhere along the line or something.

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7 AP

(4,12), (4,15), (5,5), (5,9), (5,11), (5,13), (5,15), (6,2), (6,4), (6,6), (6,8) (6,12), (7,3), (7,5), (7,11), (7,13), (8,12), (9,11), (10,10), (10,12), (10,14), (10,16), (11,15), (11,17), (12,18)
[11 Plains, 5 Mountainses, 9 Forests]

52 Food
31 Iron
41 Wood

Barque, 2xTransport, 2xSwordsman (10,20)
Transport (4,16)
4xSwordsman (12,18)
Militia (5,5)
2xMilitia (5,11)

Recruit Peasant at (10,16) [-1 AP]
Recruit Militia at (5,13) [-1 AP]
Swordsman Stack: Attack (13,17), (14,16) [-4 AP]
Harvest [-1 AP]

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(4,12), (4,15), (5,5), (5,9), (5,11), (5,13), (5,15), (6,2), (6,4), (6,6), (6,8) (6,12), (7,3), (7,5), (7,11), (7,13), (8,12), (9,11), (10,10), (10,12), (10,14), (10,16), (11,15), (11,17), (12,18), (13,17), (14,16)
[12 Plains, 6 Mountainses, 9 Forests]

59 Food
36 Iron
50 Wood

Barque, 2xTransport, 2xSwordsman (10,20)
Transport (4,16)
4xSwordsman (12,18)
Militia (5,5)
2xMilitia (5,11)
Peasant (10,16)
Militia (5,13)

Can I recruit multiple units for one AP? And what's the point of a Supply Ship?

[kj1225]

Recruitment center on the desert to the south west of twenty ten.
Also recruit a the maximum amount of swords men I can and hope that will hold me until I can look at the map again.

[scapheap]

Stop running!

Move militia to 14,16 wiping out those swordmen(8+1=9 lost)(4AP)

(turns are processed in order they were posted).

The odd thing is I put that order up when GWG was offline and that turn

Thank you for the correction.

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6 AP

(4,12), (4,15), (5,5), (5,9), (5,11), (5,13), (5,15), (6,2), (6,4), (6,6), (6,8) (6,12), (7,3), (7,5), (7,11), (7,13), (8,12), (9,11), (10,10), (10,12), (10,14), (10,16), (11,15), (11,17), (12,16)
[11 Plains, 6 Mountainses, 8 Forests]

41 Food
24 Iron
33 Wood

Barque, 2xTransport, 2xSwordsman (10,20)
Transport (4,16)
Swordsman (12,16)
Militia (5,5)
2xMilitia (5,11)
4 swordsmen (10,16)

Move 4-swordsman stack to (11,17) (-1 AP)
Move Swordsman to (11,17) (-1 AP)
Attack (12,18) with 5-swordsman stack! (-3 AP)
Harvest (-1 AP)

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(4,12), (4,15), (5,5), (5,9), (5,11), (5,13), (5,15), (6,2), (6,4), (6,6), (6,8) (6,12), (7,3), (7,5), (7,11), (7,13), (8,12), (9,11), (10,10), (10,12), (10,14), (10,16), (11,15), (11,17), (12,16), (12,18)
[11 Plains, 7 Mountainses, 8 Forests]

52 Food
31 Iron
41 Wood

Barque, 2xTransport, 2xSwordsman (10,20)
Transport (4,16)
4xSwordsman (12,18)
Militia (5,5)
2xMilitia (5,11)

Did I do that right?

This one wasn't there after I posted(I check.) How did I get bump down?

[GreatWyrmGold]

By posting over half an hour after me.

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14 AP

(4,12), (4,15), (5,5), (5,9), (5,11), (5,13), (5,15), (6,2), (6,4), (6,6), (6,8) (6,12), (7,3), (7,5), (7,11), (7,13), (8,12), (9,11), (10,10), (10,12), (10,14), (10,16), (11,15), (11,17), (12,18), (13,17)
[12 Plains, 5 Mountainses, 9 Forests]

59 Food
36 Iron
50 Wood

Barque, 2xTransport, 2xSwordsman (10,20)
Transport (4,16)
Militia (5,5)
2xMilitia (5,11)
Peasant (10,16)
Militia (5,13)

Move fleet to (14,22) [-4 AP]
Move swordsmen from fleet to (14,20), (15,19), (16,18) [-5 AP]
Build two Archers at (16,18) [-2? AP]
Move Archer/Swordsman stack to (15,17) [-2 AP]
Build Swordsman at (16,18) [-1 AP]

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(4,12), (4,15), (5,5), (5,9), (5,11), (5,13), (5,15), (6,2), (6,4), (6,6), (6,8) (6,12), (7,3), (7,5), (7,11), (7,13), (8,12), (9,11), (10,10), (10,12), (10,14), (10,16), (11,15), (11,17), (12,18), (13,17), (14,20), (15,17), (15,19), (16,18)
[13 Plains, 5 Mountainses, 12 Forests]

48 Food
0 Iron
50 Wood

Barque, 2xTransport (14,22)
2xSwordsman, 2xArcher (15,17)
Transport (4,16)
Militia (5,5)
2xMilitia (5,11)
Peasant (10,16)
Militia (5,13)

Bam. Navy power rules.

[scapheap]

By posting over half an hour after me.

The thing is, I always check my post after posting, just in case I missed something not clear in previews. When I checked, it was a1s above me(I remember the avatar). Your post simply didn't pop up for me.

[GreatWyrmGold]

I have no clue. But my post came in before your post, so however it happened, it happened.

[a1s]

Processing all your turns now.

Your post simply didn't pop up for me.

Well, you know how it is, your player must have rolled a 1 on their spot check.

Well, no. Somehow you have 6 AP, even though you should (at 19:00-19:59 GMT) have 5.

Wait, the AP count is updating on the hour, even though the game started 15 minutes after the hour? I should have had one more AP from the previous turn, then.

well, you had 30 AP on February 21, 2014, 02:03:25 pm GMT, and spent all of it (over-submitting 4AP worth of actions, which were ignored)
Then you gained 5AP by February 21, 2014, 07:23:41 pm GMT (7-2=5.) and spent it all again (over-submitting the harvest action, which was ignored. In this case that actually mattered, since on the same "tick" you were attacked and if I let you harvest "on credit", you'd end up with extra resources.)

Can I recruit multiple units for one AP? And what's the point of a Supply Ship?

You can't recruit multiple units on 1 AP (this was meant to encourage you to buy more expensive units, but I think I overdid it with the cost growth.)
I'm glad you asked about the "supply ship", it helps you traverse the deep water tiles, by being a cheap, disposable ship (you wouldn't want to lose a transport, would you?) I'm thinking of making supply ship be the exception, and allow recruiting more than 1 per turn, what do you guys think?

[a1s]

Spoiler: map at a glance (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: detailed positions (click to show/hide)

• scapheap:
  
  • AP:30
  • Controls: <12,16> <12,20> <13,11> <13,13> <13,15> <13,17> <13,19> <13,21> <14,10> <14,12> <14,14> <14,18> <15,15> <16,14> <16,16> <17,15> <17,17> <17,19> <18,16> <18,18>
    (11 fields, 3 woods, 4 mountains, The Ruins)
  • None!
  • Units: 1 swordsman at <17,15>,1 swordsman at <14,10>
  • Fleets: 3 transports, 1 barque at <15,21>
  • Resources:42 food, 52 wood, 40 iron
  • Alliance from: kj1225
  • Alliance Declared on: kj1225
• GWG:
  
  • AP:8
  • Controls:<4,12> <4,14> <5,5> <5,9> <5,11> <5,13> <5,15> <6,2> <6,4> <6,6> <6,8> <6,12> <7,3> <7,5> <7,11> <7,13> <8,12> <9,11> <10,10> <10,12> <10,14> <10,16> <11,15> <11,17> <12,18> <14,16> <14,20> <15,17> <15,19> <16,18>
    (12 fields, 11 woods, 7 mountains)
  • Buildings: Port at <5,15>, Recruitment Center at <5,13>,Recruitment Center at <10,16>, Port at <15,17>,Recruitment Center at <16,19>
  • Units: 2 swordsmen, 2 archers at <15,17>, 1 militia at <5,5>, 2 militia at <4,14>, 1 swordsman at <14,16>, militia at <5,13>, peasant at <10,16>, 1 swordsman at <16,18>
  • Fleets: 1 transport at <4,16>, 2 transports, 1 barque at <10,20>
  • Resources:62 food, 11 wood, 43 iron
• Remuthra:
  
  • AP:30
  • Controls: <8,8> <9,3> <9,5> <9,7> <9,9> <10,4> <10,6> <11,5> <11,7> <10,8>
    (2 fields, 4 forests, 4 mountains)
  • Buildings: Port at <10,4>
  • Units: 3 swordsmen at <9,9>
  • Fleets: 3 transports, 1 barque at <10,2>
  • Resources:37 food, 39 wood, 39 iron
• kj1225:
  
  • AP:30
  • Controls: <17,7> <17,9> <17,11>  <18,8> <18,10> <19,9> <19,11> <20,8> <20,10> <20,12> <21,9> <21,11> <22,8> <22,10> <23,7>
    (4 fields, 4 woods, 5 mountains, 2 deserts)
    
  • Buildings: Port at <23,7>
  • Units: 3 swordsmen at <17,11>
  • Fleets: 3 transports, 1 barque at <24,6>
  • Resources:79 food, 55 wood, 57 iron
  • Alliance Declared on: scapheap

Stop running!
Move militia to 14,16 wiping out those swordmen(8+1=9 lost)(4AP)

I'm sorry to tell you this, but mountains are +1 defense per unit (4 swordsmen thus have 12 defense in total). After a valiant uphill battle, your militia are all slain, but GWG loses all but 1 swordsman.

[scapheap]

Back up would be nice, KJ

Build Recruitment Center at 15,15(-30 wood)(3AP)
Make 5 Swordsman and 1 archer(-19food,-36Iron)(6ap)
Move 3 swordsman South east then south(3vs2 win) and then south west(3AP)

[scapheap]

Double post because I had to do something and didn't want to be ninja'ed by GWG and wiped out.

HavestX10(130 food, 60 Wood, 60 Iron)(10AP)
Build 3 Native Archer(48 food and wood)(3ap)
Build 4 swordmen(12 food, 16 iron)
Move 5 swordmen from 15,15 to 14,16(10 vs 3)(1AP)

[GreatWyrmGold]

You can't recruit multiple units on 1 AP (this was meant to encourage you to buy more expensive units, but I think I overdid it with the cost growth.)

And on the subject of cost, food costs are inconsequential and iron costs crippling. There's almost no need to try and get food, unless your army is almost entirely made up of the weakest units.
Incidentally, this makes the pikeman and such about four times as expensive as a swordsman...despite only being half again as strong.

I'm glad you asked about the "supply ship", it helps you traverse the deep water tiles, by being a cheap, disposable ship (you wouldn't want to lose a transport, would you?) I'm thinking of making supply ship be the exception, and allow recruiting more than 1 per turn, what do you guys think?

Yes, but what does the supply ship do in the deep-water tiles?

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22 AP

(4,12), (4,15), (5,5), (5,9), (5,11), (5,13), (5,15), (6,2), (6,4), (6,6), (6,8) (6,12), (7,3), (7,5), (7,11), (7,13), (8,12), (9,11), (10,10), (10,12), (10,14), (10,16), (11,15), (11,17), (12,18), (13,17), (14,20), (15,17), (15,19), (16,18)
[13 Plains, 5 Mountainses, 12 Forests]

74 Food
10 Iron
74 Wood

Barque, 2xTransport (14,22)
2xSwordsman, 2xArcher (15,17)
Transport (4,16)
Militia (5,5)
2xMilitia (5,11)
Peasant (10,16)
Militia (5,13)
Swordsman (16,18)

Move Peasant to (9,15), (9,17) [-5 AP]
Harvest x3 [-2 AP]
Recruit 3 Swordsmen at (16,18) [-3 AP]
Move 4xSwordsman to (16,16) [-1 AP]
Attack with 4x Swordsman, leaving one surviving swordsman to take (15,15)! [-1 AP]
Attack (14,14) with Swordsman, no defenders. [-1 AP]
Havestx2 [-2 AP]
Build Fort at (14,14) [-3 AP]
Recruit 3 Swordsmen at (15,15) and one at (16,18) [-4 AP]

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0 AP

(4,12), (4,15), (5,5), (5,9), (5,11), (5,13), (5,15), (6,2), (6,4), (6,6), (6,8) (6,12), (7,3), (7,5), (7,11), (7,13), (8,12), (9,11), (10,10), (10,12), (10,14), (10,16), (11,15), (11,17), (12,18), (13,17), (14,14), (14,20), (15,15) (15,17), (15,19), (16,16) (16,18)
[14 Plains, 6 Mountainses, 14 Forests, Ruins]

87 Food
6 Iron
55 Wood

Barque, 2xTransport (14,22)
2xSwordsman, 2xArcher (15,17)
Transport (4,16)
Militia (5,5)
2xMilitia (5,11)
Peasant (9,17)
Militia (5,13)
2xSwordsman (14,14)
2xSwordsman (15,15)
1xSwordsman (16,18)

There we go.

[kj1225]

Build a recruitment center on the mountain below 20,10?
Send my swordsmen to attack the one at 16,18 if possible.
Spend the rest of my AP on harvesting.

Yeah, I can't see the map currently so I'm just going off the detailed positions thing.

[a1s]

You know you can post while I'm not here, right?
Everyone has 30 AP. Again.
fake edit: well, shit. not anymore.

You can't recruit multiple units on 1 AP (this was meant to encourage you to buy more expensive units, but I think I overdid it with the cost growth.)

And on the subject of cost, food costs are inconsequential and iron costs crippling. There's almost no need to try and get food, unless your army is almost entirely made up of the weakest units.

Iron costs are limited to land units, whereas food is used for both ships and land units. Also you can spend it on peasants (an, admittedly very weak, unit with no iron cost at all, there's no unit that inverts this) and Rough Riders (desert special). I'm not sure if all resources have the same importance, but I would not recommend ignoring food.

I'm glad you asked about the "supply ship", it helps you traverse the deep water tiles, by being a cheap, disposable ship (you wouldn't want to lose a transport, would you?) I'm thinking of making supply ship be the exception, and allow recruiting more than 1 per turn, what do you guys think?

Yes, but what does the supply ship do in the deep-water tiles?

To be perfectly blunt: it dies there so that your transports/galleys/what have you won't. It's just that you wouldn't get anyone to crew them if you called them "disposable suicide ships". Which is what they are- there is literally no other use for them (you might also try to frighten someone off by pretending to have an armada in a hex, but they'd have to be pretty stupid to fall for that, considering all info about your fleet is freely available).

Spoiler: map at a glance (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: detailed positions (click to show/hide)

• scapheap:
  
  • AP:1
  • Controls: <12,16> <12,20> <13,11> <13,13> <13,15> <13,17> <13,19> <13,21> <14,10> <14,12> <14,14> <14,16> <14,18> <15,15> <15,19> <16,14> <16,16> <16,18> <17,15> <17,17> <17,19> <18,16> <18,18>
    (13 fields, 4 woods, 5 mountains, The Ruins)
  • Buildings: Recruitment Center at <15,15>, Port at <15,17>,Recruitment Center at <16,19>
  • Units: 1 swordsman, 1 archer, 3 native archers at <15,15>, 2 swordsmen at <15,17>, 4 swordsmen at <14,16>
  • Fleets: 3 transports, 1 barque at <15,21>
  • Resources:105 food, 34 wood, 48 iron
  • Alliance from: kj1225
  • Alliance Declared on: kj1225
• GWG:
  
  • AP:10
  • Controls:<4,12> <4,14> <5,5> <5,9> <5,11> <5,13> <5,15> <6,2> <6,4> <6,6> <6,8> <6,12> <7,3> <7,5> <7,11> <7,13> <8,12> <9,11> <10,10> <10,12> <10,14> <10,16> <11,15> <11,17> <12,18> <14,20> <15,17>
    (10 fields, 10 woods, 6 mountains)
  • Buildings: Port at <5,15>, Recruitment Center at <5,13>,Recruitment Center at <10,16>
  • Units: 2 swordsmen, 2 archers at <15,17>, 1 militia at <5,5>, 2 militia at <4,14>,militia at <5,13>, peasant at <10,16>,
  • Fleets: 1 transport at <4,16>, 2 transports, 1 barque at <10,20>
  • Resources:62 food, 11 wood, 43 iron
• NQT:
  
  • AP:30
  • Controls: <8,8> <9,3> <9,5> <9,7> <9,9> <10,4> <10,6> <11,5> <11,7> <10,8>
    (2 fields, 4 forests, 4 mountains)
  • Buildings: Port at <10,4>
  • Units: 3 swordsmen at <9,9>
  • Fleets: 3 transports, 1 barque at <10,2>
  • Resources:37 food, 39 wood, 39 iron
• kj1225:
  
  • AP:30
  • Controls: <17,7> <17,9> <17,11>  <18,8> <18,10> <19,9> <19,11> <20,8> <20,10> <20,12> <21,9> <21,11> <22,8> <22,10> <23,7>
    (4 fields, 4 woods, 5 mountains, 2 deserts)
    
  • Buildings: Port at <23,7>
  • Units: 3 swordsmen at <17,11>
  • Fleets: 3 transports, 1 barque at <24,6>
  • Resources:79 food, 55 wood, 57 iron
  • Alliance Declared on: scapheap

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[13 Plains, 5 Mountainses, 12 Forests]

48 Food
0 Iron
50 Wood

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74 Food
10 Iron
74 Wood

Would you like to explain your logic to me?
In case you're wondering, here's how much resources I think you had at the time:

Spoiler: detailed positions (click to show/hide)

• GWG:
  
  • Controls:<4,12> <4,14> <5,5> <5,9> <5,11> <5,13> <5,15> <6,2> <6,4> <6,6> <6,8> <6,12> <7,3> <7,5> <7,11> <7,13> <8,12> <9,11> <10,10> <10,12> <10,14> <10,16> <11,15> <11,17> <12,18> <14,16> <14,20> <15,17> <15,19> <16,18>
    (12 fields, 11 woods, 7 mountains)
  • Resources:62 food, 11 wood, 43 iron

HavestX10(130 food, 60 Wood, 60 Iron)(10AP)

actually only 50 wood, by my count (4 fields+ruin)

Build 3 Native Archer(48 food and wood)(3ap)
Build 4 swordmen(12 food, 16 iron)

Where did that happen? You have 2 RecCenters! (both in a forest) I'm going to infer from context (because I don't want to make you redo a turn 2 days after you submitted it) that you meant <15,15>, but you should make these things clear.

Move Peasant to (9,15), (9,17) [-5 AP]
Harvest x3 [-2 AP]
Recruit 3 Swordsmen at (16,18) [-3 AP]
Move 4xSwordsman to (16,16) [-1 AP]
Attack with 4x Swordsman, leaving one surviving swordsman to take (15,15)! [-1 AP]
Attack (14,14) with Swordsman, no defenders. [-1 AP]
Havestx2 [-2 AP]
Build Fort at (14,14) [-3 AP]
Recruit 3 Swordsmen at (15,15) and one at (16,18) [-4 AP]

You didn't actually own <16,18> at the start of your turn. Seeing as how most of your turn hinges on you having it (and I, again, don't want to mess with a 2 day old turn), I no longer have any idea what to do... 

I'm going to do a rollback to noon February 23, 12am
Most people have less AP now, primarily scapheap.
Also, recruiting without specifying the location is now an illegal move and will not be processed. Yes, even if you only own 1 recCenter.
Also also, notquitethere is replacing Remuthra.

[GreatWyrmGold]

My logic is basically the adding and subtracting everything turn-by-turn over all my turn.

And yeah. This isn't really fun for me anymore (too much work for too little benefit), Remuthra hasn't really posted in a while, kj isn't much better...

[a1s]

And yeah. This isn't really fun for me anymore (too much work for too little benefit), Remuthra hasn't really posted in a while, kj isn't much better...

It's also more work then I though it would be. I just spent well over an hour trying to make sense of what happened on that turn (you'd think it would be faster, right? But things just kept not adding up. And it's been like that most turns.) Maybe we should stop...

edit: wrong quote