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[Radio Controlled]

Not totally true Syv. If we come up with an effective, totally unknown piece of tech, the UWM won't know what the fuck to do about it. Now, the second time we use it, it'll be harder.

Syv is talking from a meta standpoint. As in, if we broke the game, then PW would just throw more of 'em at us to even out the odds.

Point two: I wasn't suggesting putting automanips for movement into it.  That's stupid.  You have a space magic avatar sitting there, so why not use that?  This also means that return capability is just "rest for a while, then expend twice the energy in the opposite direction to return".  Alternatively, fire it from a cap. ship, and have the avatar park it in space and wait for pickup when it's done.

As you mentioned in the beginning, who would even pilot these things? You need 20 int to even be able to use a universal manip, after all.


Also: we do not yet know if PW will keep using the team fund method. We'll have to see how he wants to handle it.

[Pancaek]

So, team A is now on escape pods towards the planet. Is my braincase with them? I can't recall.

[Kriellya]

So, team A is now on escape pods towards the planet. Is my braincase with them? I can't recall.

Your brain case is in the debris field, with the entry pod.

[Pancaek]

oh jolly good. No way that's going to go awry. fingers crossed.

[Xantalos]

Point two: I wasn't suggesting putting automanips for movement into it.  That's stupid.  You have a space magic avatar sitting there, so why not use that?  This also means that return capability is just "rest for a while, then expend twice the energy in the opposite direction to return".  Alternatively, fire it from a cap. ship, and have the avatar park it in space and wait for pickup when it's done.

who is going to pilot these things though? You need 20 int to even be able to use a universal manip, after all.

Super min maxed special Sods?

[Hapah]

If you need a weapon, you can take one of the handguns I looted. I'm going to give them to the team fund.

I'd take one. Free gun is best gun!

[Radio Controlled]

Point two: I wasn't suggesting putting automanips for movement into it.  That's stupid.  You have a space magic avatar sitting there, so why not use that?  This also means that return capability is just "rest for a while, then expend twice the energy in the opposite direction to return".  Alternatively, fire it from a cap. ship, and have the avatar park it in space and wait for pickup when it's done.

who is going to pilot these things though? You need 20 int to even be able to use a universal manip, after all.

Super min maxed special Sods?

Sods can't use spess magick. Or I'd have included an amp user in the light sod infantry squad.

[Xantalos]

Point two: I wasn't suggesting putting automanips for movement into it.  That's stupid.  You have a space magic avatar sitting there, so why not use that?  This also means that return capability is just "rest for a while, then expend twice the energy in the opposite direction to return".  Alternatively, fire it from a cap. ship, and have the avatar park it in space and wait for pickup when it's done.

who is going to pilot these things though? You need 20 int to even be able to use a universal manip, after all.

Super min maxed special Sods?

Sods can't use spess magick. Or I'd have included an amp user in the light sod infantry squad.

Then we need to genetically engineer them to be able to! Have them programmed with a predetermined list of commands to do with the amp.

[Radio Controlled]

Point two: I wasn't suggesting putting automanips for movement into it.  That's stupid.  You have a space magic avatar sitting there, so why not use that?  This also means that return capability is just "rest for a while, then expend twice the energy in the opposite direction to return".  Alternatively, fire it from a cap. ship, and have the avatar park it in space and wait for pickup when it's done.

who is going to pilot these things though? You need 20 int to even be able to use a universal manip, after all.

Super min maxed special Sods?

Sods can't use spess magick. Or I'd have included an amp user in the light sod infantry squad.

Then we need to genetically engineer them to be able to! Have them programmed with a predetermined list of commands to do with the amp.

I don't think that's possible. It might be, but I doubt it.

[Tavik Toth]

Who's heard of Battle Royale?

[Phoenix Flame]

Who's heard of Battle Royale?

The distinctly disturbing novel/manga/live action film?

[Tavik Toth]

Who's heard of Battle Royale?

The distinctly disturbing novel/manga/live action film?

Yes.

[NAV]

I've read it. It was better than the Hunger Games.

[Xantalos]

I've read it. It was better than the Hunger Games.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rwb2glCshzY

[GreatWyrmGold]

We're not talking about automanipulators the size of pocket calculators, here - we're talking about an automanipulator large enough to have the capacity to cool a decently large sphere to 2-3K, and in doing so shield that heat of life support, the automanips you would need to use for movement (the tyranny of the rocket equation is still in effect here, if you don't use them - you start to go a bit beyond 'fighter' scale if you plan to have any decent velocity, return capability, and manoeuvring capability), and the power source for all of the automanips.

You misread. He was saying that he felt that the actual, physics-abiding portion of the manipulator wouldn't take more juice than a pocket calculator.

Point two: I wasn't suggesting putting automanips for movement into it.  That's stupid.  You have a space magic avatar sitting there, so why not use that?

How does this matter? The avatar only has space magic because of manips.

Two: Best argument against shade fighters: This is a game, and PW balances the game.  Just like we didn't give everyone battlesuits before the defense of hephaestus because he would have just given us tougher opponents, if we actually did manufacture a bunch of advanced and powerful fighters, he would just make space battles comparatively harder.

So we shouldn't strive to improve our characters or their tools? Maybe we should cripple ourselves, to weaken the UWM more?