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[Xantalos]

I wonder, could we assume Skylar and Xan are next to each other for badgering purposes?

[Kriellya]

I wonder, could we assume Skylar and Xan are next to each other for badgering purposes?

Go for it, no promises I'll be responsive before morning though.

You know, ignoring that I am clearly at the computer right now...

[Xantalos]

Honestly I probably would but I can feel my body shutting down as I type this so imma post before I fall asleep on the keyboard.

[Kriellya]

Honestly I probably would but I can feel my body shutting down as I type this so imma post before I fall asleep on the keyboard.

Yeah, I'd be doing that myself, but I have a few more things I need to get done tonight :/

[Lenglon]

I don't think Auron did anything wrong, and shouldn't have been shocked. However, with how poorly he reacted to the event, I do agree with retconing him out of there. The fate of 3 teams at once is resting on the Blops team, and he rendered himself not just useless but an active threat to the Blops team, simply based on his past reactions to friendly fire, even accidental.

I don't think he should have even been put on the blops mission team if people were going to treat him like that. It would have been better for everyone if the team leader had simply refused to let him come. Now that this happened though, considering his tendency to lash out, he needs to go.

[Pancaek]

That and while I may be uninformed, I'm not entirely sure why Auron was under limits. It just almost seemed like the senior staff (pancaek mostly?) was picking on the guy. Go figure. That aside, my guy is on planet so.... Do well, please.

I'm sorry, what? How am I picking on the guy?

[Devastator]

I'm not sure why Joker team gets a replacement, really.  If there's a teammate they can't work with, and needs to be removed from the mission, why do you get another reinforcment to replace him?  If you're cut-off and in a dangerous situation, I'd like to see there be some IC consequences to IC choices.

[Empiricist]

I'm not sure why Joker team gets a replacement, really.  If there's a teammate they can't work with, and needs to be removed from the mission, why do you get another reinforcment to replace him?  If you're cut-off and in a dangerous situation, I'd like to see there be some IC consequences to IC choices.

Probably because the OOC would spontaneously combust otherwise

[Parisbre56]

Because it's a game and people are supposed to have fun. If the unfun reaches critical levels, then the fun police will come and nobody wants that.

[kj1225]

I'm not sure why Joker team gets a replacement, really.  If there's a teammate they can't work with, and needs to be removed from the mission, why do you get another reinforcment to replace him?  If you're cut-off and in a dangerous situation, I'd like to see there be some IC consequences to IC choices.

Probably because the OOC would spontaneously combust otherwise

Perfect! Down with the Retcon!

[Harry Baldman]

You did react rather badly, though. It wouldn't have prevented the initial incident*, but not OOC kind of half threatening to murder everyone only not and IC screaming about what an asshole everyone was and how you weren't going to do anything would have prevented the second incident and the retcon.

_{*Though depending on how Auron's acted in the past, that might explain the restrictions/jumpiness in the first place.}

To be perfectly honest, I find Auron's IC reaction perfectly in keeping with what I'd consider a normal response to being abruptly shocked in the nervous system for unclear reasons. The "I'll kill you all" OOC defense, I'll grant, is about as effective as it was the last time, however.

Kind of a shame he's apparently gotten retconned out, really. Would have been interesting to see how the situation played out. And seeing the consequences of what could be said to be a poor choice in personnel (not that Auron isn't a useful teammate, but that they chose to put him on the team with a crucial mission where it's critical that teammates trust one another and follow the plan to the letter).

[Devastator]

Should have just been kept IC, really.

I think I've already said my bit, though, we've all got prisoner implants, and you're the Joker team.. should be able to handle a personell problem without resorting to a GM 'fix it' button.  Retconning things so that nothing ever happened means there's no drama or tension.

[piecewise]

You did react rather badly, though. It wouldn't have prevented the initial incident*, but not OOC kind of half threatening to murder everyone only not and IC screaming about what an asshole everyone was and how you weren't going to do anything would have prevented the second incident and the retcon.

_{*Though depending on how Auron's acted in the past, that might explain the restrictions/jumpiness in the first place.}

To be perfectly honest, I find Auron's IC reaction perfectly in keeping with what I'd consider a normal response to being abruptly shocked in the nervous system for unclear reasons. The "I'll kill you all" OOC defense, I'll grant, is about as effective as it was the last time, however.

Kind of a shame he's apparently gotten retconned out, really. Would have been interesting to see how the situation played out. And seeing the consequences of what could be said to be a poor choice in personnel (not that Auron isn't a useful teammate, but that they chose to put him on the team with a crucial mission where it's critical that teammates trust one another and follow the plan to the letter).

I would prefer not to retcon as well, the problem is that this situation is hard to resolve any other way. should we just leave auron there? Because he's not gonna trust anyone and they're not gonna trust him, and I'm gonna keep getting dozens of pms about how I should shock him or about how I shouldn't shock him. And the problem is that it mostly comes from OOC stuff. If I shock Auron out and then someone uses him to check for traps or as a meat shield while he's unconscious, and they do it because of things his player said in OOC, does that make sense in the game world? Would the joker team suddenly, without any real in world reason, become rabidly suspicious and questionably homicidal toward one of their members? Probably not.

If this sort of thing had occurred completely In character, then I would be more then happy to let you guys murder each other and screw the pooch on the mission. Because it would be RP and make sense. But characters being irrationally antagonistic to each other because of things that happened in the OOC thread or PMs isn't something I want. I don't want player grudges to ruin other people's fun.

So cool your collective butts and lets move on.

[Harry Baldman]

Well, quite. There's character drama and then there's forum drama, and when the two intersect then the situation ought to get some rethinking done on it. I guess it's not so much a shame about the retcon, really, more of an opportunity for fun IC bickering wasted by worthless OOC bickering, to clarify my feelings on the issue.

EDIT: Though I do admit to being interested on who's exactly the authority on shocking/permadeathening people through deadly IRC. Is it the Council? I thought that was kind of OOC, y'know. Or is the Council also a representation of all the other brains Steve has in him, so that he's not represented only by piecewise?

[Parisbre56]

I'm pretty sure only Thaddeus and Milno have that sort of authority, since they're team leader and team leader's superior. And Steve, because Steve.
EDIT: Although I suppose Steve could decide to shock someone if someone else convinced him it was necessary.