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Author Topic: UR's Post-USSR politics megathread  (Read 304284 times)

Comrade P.

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Re: UR's Post-USSR politics megathread
« Reply #3750 on: March 25, 2014, 02:31:35 pm »

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Re: UR's Post-USSR politics megathread
« Reply #3751 on: March 25, 2014, 02:31:48 pm »

First of all, don't trivialize shit bro. A large section of a country ...

Stopped reading right there. Keep your numbers straight. Numbers dont lie.

Keep my numbers straight? Dude, look at the percentage of land that it occupied in the Ukraine. FURTHERMORE, look at its location in the Black Sea, that is a huge strategic advantage for Russia to now  control Crimea.

Exactly. But Crimea is big for Russia, for Ukraine in terms of GDP is like 3% iirc

Doesn't matter, it was a huge bargaining chip for Ukraine, they got to lease the Svestapol port at their terms. It's also big for everyone, you think that what happens in Crimea applies only to Ukraine and Russia? This is literally how it starts, next it's Kiev, then who knows how far Putin will go?

EDIT: @Comrade, I meant the percentage of landmass which it had in comparison to the rest of the country!

You should never judge size of landmass to it's real value. And no, Kiev is not next, we dont need it.

... You didn't need Crimea.
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« Reply #3752 on: March 25, 2014, 02:35:23 pm »

First of all, don't trivialize shit bro. A large section of a country ...

Stopped reading right there. Keep your numbers straight. Numbers dont lie.

Keep my numbers straight? Dude, look at the percentage of land that it occupied in the Ukraine. FURTHERMORE, look at its location in the Black Sea, that is a huge strategic advantage for Russia to now  control Crimea.

Exactly. But Crimea is big for Russia, for Ukraine in terms of GDP is like 3% iirc

Doesn't matter, it was a huge bargaining chip for Ukraine, they got to lease the Svestapol port at their terms. It's also big for everyone, you think that what happens in Crimea applies only to Ukraine and Russia? This is literally how it starts, next it's Kiev, then who knows how far Putin will go?

EDIT: @Comrade, I meant the percentage of landmass which it had in comparison to the rest of the country!

You should never judge size of landmass to it's real value. And no, Kiev is not next, we dont need it.

... You didn't need Crimea.

Obviously we did. We paid huge amount amount of money for stationed fleet. It's politics.
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Re: UR's Post-USSR politics megathread
« Reply #3753 on: March 25, 2014, 02:37:29 pm »

I can tolerate many things in this thread even Russians Soviets, but, please, no quote pyramids
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« Reply #3755 on: March 25, 2014, 02:39:30 pm »

I can tolerate many things in this thread even Russians Soviets, but, please, no quote pyramids

Soviets - russians whatever. I stand to my point (literally my point, no devil advocates here). Russia + Ukraine + Belarus  = same people, same country. (quotes being a lazy)
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« Reply #3756 on: March 25, 2014, 02:44:01 pm »

Russia + Ukraine + Belarus  = same people, same country.
And after that he claims that he doesn't want Kiev :D

PS, I suggest you to add Bulgaria to that same people list, Bulgarian language is much more closer to Russian than Ukrainian and similarities in Language is usually your main argument  in that "same people" nonsense
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Re: UR's Post-USSR politics megathread
« Reply #3757 on: March 25, 2014, 02:45:11 pm »

I can tolerate many things in this thread even Russians Soviets, but, please, no quote pyramids

Soviets - russians whatever. I stand to my point (literally my point, no devil advocates here). Russia + Ukraine + Belarus  = same people, same country. (quotes being a lazy)
People are different, there just was a common power that united them. And it always turned out to be fine, until some men up above though that it's time to have more power in a smaller territory and played it out as a "raise of national self-consciousness".

EDIT: Though in Ukraine they always had plenty of latter, so they didn't even need to raise a thing there.
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« Reply #3758 on: March 25, 2014, 02:46:46 pm »

Russia + Ukraine + Belarus  = same people, same country.
And after that he claims that he doesn't want Kiev :D

PS, I suggest you to add Bulgaria to that same people list, Bulgarian language is much more closer to Russian than Ukrainian and similarities in Language is usually your main argument  in that "same people" nonsense

I am sad you drawing parallels. I believe we all came from Kievean Rus. Number of people called me idiot on that sentence, but whatever. I dont think it's language. It's mentality. On the other hand, you hate Russia. I am okay with that.
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Re: UR's Post-USSR politics megathread
« Reply #3759 on: March 25, 2014, 02:47:58 pm »

I can tolerate many things in this thread even Russians Soviets, but, please, no quote pyramids

Soviets - russians whatever. I stand to my point (literally my point, no devil advocates here). Russia + Ukraine + Belarus  = same people, same country. (quotes being a lazy)
People are different, there just was a common power that united them. And it always turned out to be fine, until some men up above though that it's time to have more power in a smaller territory and played it out as a "raise of national self-consciousness".

EDIT: Though in Ukraine they always had plenty of latter, so they didn't even need to raise a thing there.

I am fiercely against nationalism. Not like anybody believe me anyways.
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Re: UR's Post-USSR politics megathread
« Reply #3760 on: March 25, 2014, 02:49:17 pm »

I am fiercely against nationalism. Not like anybody belive me anyways.

I..buh..wha...

I...just...

Wat?
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« Reply #3761 on: March 25, 2014, 02:50:24 pm »

I am fiercely against nationalism. Not like anybody belive me anyways.

I..buh..wha...

I...just...

Wat?

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Re: UR's Post-USSR politics megathread
« Reply #3762 on: March 25, 2014, 02:54:07 pm »

Use the edit button, please.
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« Reply #3763 on: March 25, 2014, 02:55:18 pm »

Well, I'd like to echo the refrain I make every time gogis manages to fill up a page - I have no fucking clue what he is saying, ever. He doesn't even seem to agree with himself about anything, or understand the arguments he's making or the end to which they are made, so how am I supposed to figure it out.

I my disagree with Guardian and Comrade about plenty of stuff, but at least I've normally got an idea of what they are saying and when we miscommunicate we seem to be able to identify and address the miscommunication. If you ask gogis to clarify or explain something you don't think you understand, he just doubles down.

Is there any actual *thing* happening that we can talk about? Did we talk about Russia banning S.T.A.L.K.E.R yet?
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Re: UR's Post-USSR politics megathread
« Reply #3764 on: March 25, 2014, 02:56:43 pm »

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