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Re: Russian intervention in Ukraine
« Reply #2041 on: March 06, 2014, 04:44:54 am »

I don't hate Russians (more than any other people). Some of my favourite siblings are Russian.
Wait, you are russian too?

Breaking news:
According to Lenta.ru, which cites RIA Novosti, the referendum will decide on should Crimea secede from Ukraine and become a part of Russia.
I thought that was announced days ago.
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Re: Russian intervention in Ukraine
« Reply #2042 on: March 06, 2014, 04:46:06 am »

I don't hate Russians (more than any other people). Some of my favourite siblings are Russian.
Wait, you are russian too?
Something tells me he is using or spoofing the "I don't hate X, some of my friends are X" excuse.

Breaking news:
According to Lenta.ru, which cites RIA Novosti, the referendum will decide on should Crimea secede from Ukraine and become a part of Russia.
I thought that was announced days ago.
Before, it was only a rumour. Now, it's official.
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Re: Russian intervention in Ukraine
« Reply #2043 on: March 06, 2014, 04:47:17 am »

I don't hate Russians (more than any other people). Some of my favourite siblings are Russian.
Wait, you are russian too?
I have no idea where you get that idea from.
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Re: Russian intervention in Ukraine
« Reply #2044 on: March 06, 2014, 05:05:03 am »

Siblings are brothers & sisters yo, by blood. Russian siblings implies you're Russian.
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Re: Russian intervention in Ukraine
« Reply #2045 on: March 06, 2014, 05:09:46 am »

Semi-siblings then. Bit of a cumbersome word really.
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Re: Russian intervention in Ukraine
« Reply #2046 on: March 06, 2014, 05:16:19 am »

Have seen surprisingly little mention of it in english media, but seems like russian troops have pulled back from a number of surrounded ukrainian military bases tonight. Speculation ranges from that they've pulled back due to the OSCE observer delegation arriving later today, to leaving the field open to provocations from the civilian militias.

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Re: Russian intervention in Ukraine
« Reply #2047 on: March 06, 2014, 05:23:08 am »

RIA Novosti and couple of other regional sources, both Russian and Ukrainian claim that the parliament of Crimea passed a resolution declaring that Crimea shall become a part of Russia without holding any referendums. I'm very sceptical about those reports, though.
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Re: Russian intervention in Ukraine
« Reply #2048 on: March 06, 2014, 05:32:21 am »

Who's holding the Crimean parliament, again?
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Re: Russian intervention in Ukraine
« Reply #2049 on: March 06, 2014, 05:39:26 am »

Have seen surprisingly little mention of it in english media, but seems like russian troops have pulled back from a number of surrounded ukrainian military bases tonight. Speculation ranges from that they've pulled back due to the OSCE observer delegation arriving later today, to leaving the field open to provocations from the civilian militias.
That was just a rotation of troops, they came back shortly after
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Re: Russian intervention in Ukraine
« Reply #2050 on: March 06, 2014, 06:34:57 am »

Hard to say exactly, shortly after Yanukovitch fled, unidentified gunmen took of the Crimea parliament, then the members there voted in a new government.
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Re: Russian intervention in Ukraine
« Reply #2051 on: March 06, 2014, 07:24:08 am »

Finally, there is an easy way to solve all of the problems related in any way to Russia: We need to get Putin to listen to this.
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Re: Russian intervention in Ukraine
« Reply #2052 on: March 06, 2014, 09:25:47 am »

The referendum will officially be a "formality".

Also, Crimea speaker says:
"No need for observers because we are all honest people here."

in relation to both the parliaments vote to join Russia referendum or not, and to the referendum itself.

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Also, Crimean Vice Premier has publicly declared that the "Ukrainian Occupiers" must lay down their weapons and become Citizens of Russia or lay down their weapons and be shipped back to their foreign homeland.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2014, 09:35:46 am by GlyphGryph »
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Re: Russian intervention in Ukraine
« Reply #2053 on: March 06, 2014, 09:42:03 am »

The referendum will officially be a "formality".

Also, Crimea speaker says:
"No need for observers because we are all honest people here."

in relation to both the parliaments vote to join Russia referendum or not, and to the referendum itself.
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Re: Russian intervention in Ukraine
« Reply #2054 on: March 06, 2014, 09:43:24 am »

Why don't they hold an open referendum? I thought it was pretty clear that they'd win anyway...
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