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Re: Russian intervention in Ukraine
« Reply #2025 on: March 05, 2014, 11:52:22 pm »

So~ Due to the fact that the discussion looks somewhat civilized at this point of time, allow me to ask one thing of you.
You identify as liberal and tolerant, do you not?
Why are you intolerant towards Russians? Is it because they're not a race nor a sexuality?
My question is directly linked with the attitude exhibited towards Avis-Mergulus, Eris bless him for leaving this thread peacefully. ^^

I'm Polish myself... there are historical reasons for any Pole to dislike the previous governments of Russia, and even this one a little! but what you guys are doing is just horrible. :w:

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Re: Russian intervention in Ukraine
« Reply #2026 on: March 06, 2014, 12:06:56 am »

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Re: Russian intervention in Ukraine
« Reply #2027 on: March 06, 2014, 12:11:24 am »

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Re: Russian intervention in Ukraine
« Reply #2028 on: March 06, 2014, 12:18:52 am »

I hate the Russians!

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Re: Russian intervention in Ukraine
« Reply #2030 on: March 06, 2014, 12:45:22 am »

You identify as liberal and tolerant, do you not?
Why are you intolerant towards Russians?

The accents, mostly.  Also, I got an STD from a Russian guy once.
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Re: Russian intervention in Ukraine
« Reply #2031 on: March 06, 2014, 01:26:00 am »

Where did you get that we hate the Russians?
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Re: Russian intervention in Ukraine
« Reply #2032 on: March 06, 2014, 01:32:16 am »

Where did you get that we hate the Russians?

Because I suppose we throw the word around when we're really referencing what their leader does. Then again, that should be pretty self-evident unless someone is looking to start a fight.
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Re: Russian intervention in Ukraine
« Reply #2033 on: March 06, 2014, 02:25:29 am »

Nobody here hates Russians, and I say that as a 100% russkie myself. We just don't like what Putin does, and people like Avis and gogis don't agree with us not agreeing with this whole invasion thingy. Not they they support it, mind you, but they unfortunately interpreted our disdain for Putin's desperate powergrabbing to be disdain for Russia in general, and argued passionately.

We don't hate Russia. Even Ukrainian Ranger, who by all means should, said that.
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Re: Russian intervention in Ukraine
« Reply #2034 on: March 06, 2014, 02:29:51 am »

So~ Due to the fact that the discussion looks somewhat civilized at this point of time, allow me to ask one thing of you.
You identify as liberal and tolerant, do you not?
Why are you intolerant towards Russians? Is it because they're not a race nor a sexuality?
My question is directly linked with the attitude exhibited towards Avis-Mergulus, Eris bless him for leaving this thread peacefully. ^^

I'm Polish myself... there are historical reasons for any Pole to dislike the previous governments of Russia, and even this one a little! but what you guys are doing is just horrible. :w:

Lolwut. Are we even using the same definition for 'tolerance'?
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Re: Russian intervention in Ukraine
« Reply #2035 on: March 06, 2014, 02:33:05 am »

"President Putin's Fiction: 10 False Claims about Ukraine"

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2014/03/222988.htm

Spot the "inaccuracies".
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Re: Russian intervention in Ukraine
« Reply #2036 on: March 06, 2014, 02:33:24 am »

Maybe you think this because it looks like we're ganging on Russian posters, but I'm afraid this is a product of the different sizes of the two sides of the arguments. There is more of us, so when we all politely argue, it might seems overwhelming to the other side, who is mostly made up of Russians.

Which I think mean us of the so-called Western side have an extra duty to be polite and respectful,  because we're so many.

Still, I must say this reflect well on Bay12: thanks to the restraint of everyone (especially people like UR and Avis, who are emotionally engaged), we've managed to maintain a mostly polite conversation in the face of an invasion (Or call it whatever you like). Put another way: it takes an army to make a crack in Bay12 politeness.

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Re: Russian intervention in Ukraine
« Reply #2037 on: March 06, 2014, 04:22:36 am »

I don't hate Russians (more than any other people). Some of my favourite siblings are Russian.
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Re: Russian intervention in Ukraine
« Reply #2038 on: March 06, 2014, 04:37:09 am »

Crimean Referendum is rescheduled to march 16 :D

Guys, just announce it was taken yesterday and print results. It is more practical
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Re: Russian intervention in Ukraine
« Reply #2039 on: March 06, 2014, 04:40:05 am »

Question for those of you in Ukraine:
Has anything been happening with the anti-goverment/corruption protests over the past week? Has Russia's actions stopped them all?
Because I haven't really heard anything, since the Russian invasion is taking up all of the news about Ukraine.
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