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[Sheb]

Wikipedia tells me she suffers from a spinal disc herniation. And she was apparently diagnosed back in May 2012. Seriously, how long do you need to heal that kind of stuff, it's fairly common. I wonder if she has some other disease.

[10ebbor10]

It's a chronic injury from her prison sense. It could take a while to patch that up, depending on which care she got back in Ukraine.

[XXSockXX]

I don't know what she has exactly, but her daughter has been lobbying to get her treated here for quite a while, long before there was any sign of potential unrest.

[Sheb]

Yeah, but it made sense back when she was a prisoner: it was a way to get he out. Now? Not so much.

[XXSockXX]

Hm, like Khodorkovsky's mother getting treatment in Germany? Maybe, I don't know. Could also be related to specialists here. Or it's for security reasons. Seems unlikely to me though that it's a way of keeping her out of politics. Ukrainians seem somewhat sceptic about her anyway and the EU, at least Merkel and the EPP, haven't made a secret of their support for Klitchko.

[MarcAFK]

What exactly happened with Tymoshenko? Wikipedia has a pretty good summary, But seems heavily biased towards the idea that she was politically persecuted, It seems the "gas case" was the trigger that got her locked away, what exactly happened there?

[Sheb]

The fact is she was a corrupt oligarch that only escaped prison through getting into politics and gaining parliamentary immunity.

However, once she lost the PMship, Yanukovych decided he wanted her in jail and decided to charge her with "abuse of power" for signing a bad deal with the Russians for gas in 2009 (I think the deal was fairly good, but that's just my opinion).

So yeah, that case was bullshit, so she was politically oppressed. But she still is a corrupt oligarch.

[XXSockXX]

Good news: no more Berkut. Bad news: more pro-russian protests in Crimea. Also a bit of Russian sabble-rattling.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Quite interesting cabinet of ministers is announced on Maydan today. Let's see if it will be voted tomorrow. Many are unhappy, but they want too much. I like the list even if there are questionable persons here and there

As for Crimea. Thousands of Tatars chanting "Crimea is Ukraine" is a good message for local Russians.

 

[Comrade P.]

You say of annexing Crimea back to Russia like it's a bad thing.

Anyway, I heard something like "they are gathering volunteer forces in Crimea and giving them guns & live bullets". Sounds like bullshit. Another sounding-like-bullshit thing I heard: "it turned out marine corps ware *occasionally* deployed on board of the Russian Black Sea Fleet".

[Guardian G.I.]

Good news: no more Berkut. Bad news: more pro-russian protests in Crimea. Also a bit of Russian sabble-rattling.

Russian military had similar exercises before the war in South Ossetia in 2008.
However, in 2008 Russian officials explicitly warned that they would intervene to protect Russian citizens if Georgia attacks South Ossetia. The Russian government today doesn't seem to be inclined to intervene in Ukraine in any way.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

You say of annexing Crimea back to Russia like it's a bad thing.

Yep, it's a bad thing. For Tatars. For Ukraine it is bad, too, naval base is a good thing to have and losing Crimea will mess with our territorial waters, hurting Ukrainian economics.  And having a war near our borders isn't nice, either.  Finally that kind of annexing will show the way to other Ukrainian regions. So even with my lack of attachment to that territory, I don't want let it go

[Sheb]

UR, how would you feel if Crimea left in ~8 years after a referendum?

Anyway, were those exercises planned before? To me it sounds like Putin wants to be ready to invade, maybe he doesn't intend too, but he wants the option on the table. 

[MetalSlimeHunt]

By the way, the deal Ukraine entered into during its nuclear disarmament obligates the US, UK, and Russian Federation to protect it against any act of aggression from a nuclear power. Russia is a nuclear power. If it goes into Crimea bad things will happen all around.

[Sheb]

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