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fire emblem: waifu roulette

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fire emblem: fates except with even more weird gimmicks

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fire emblem: who even knows

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[Aklyon]

Lyn's was also pretty cool.

[Sindain]

The paladin's crit animation was one of my favorites. Relatively simplistic but oh so satisfying.

[Tawa]

Speaking of ludicrous animations, does anybody else think that the cutscene in Awakening where Chrom fights "Marth" looks ridiculous?

[SOLDIER First]

It could be better.
Aether looks completely and utterly ridiculous, though.

[Nighthawk]

Speaking of ludicrous animations, does anybody else think that the cutscene in Awakening where Chrom fights "Marth" looks ridiculous?

Indeed. The spinning thing he does is especially hilarious.

[SOLDIER First]

I do think that's Aether.

[Nighthawk]

I do think that's Aether.

Welp, my bad. I totally missed that post about it. I feel stupid now.

[Tawa]

Since we're on the topic of bizarre things in Fire Emblem, I have to draw your attention to the talksprites from Dark Dragon and the Blade of Light.

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Jeigan, being the badass with four stats that can grow he is

Cain and Abel, being total bros

Gordin, his identical cousin Tomas, his totally different friend Sedgar, and his bro Wolf

Bord and Cord, with their kickass axes and unpromotability

Used for a variety of memorable and developed enemy bosses, like Reynard, Bentheon, Merach, Zharov, Heimler, Grigas, Hollstadt, Sternlin, and Orridyon

A shopkeeper with no designs on innocent townsfolk, nosiree

A guy who greets you when you visit villages sometimes

Man, the first game was weird. Like, for starters, half the classes couldn't promote. You know how Leif doesn't promote until the game's almost over? Marth can't promote, period. There's no warriors, Bord and Cord are fighters forever. You got two units whose entire purpose was using ballistae, because ballistae were their own class. Weapon Level went up like a regular stat--one of Jeigan's flaws (aside from the fact that all his nonzero growths were 10%) was that he could never use better weapons because his weapon level couldn't go up.

Perhaps worst of all was that practically half the units in the game were throwaway units with no characterization at all, and to whom other characters were objectively superior. Like, you know how Radiant Dawn has a lot of crappy units who you couldn't use or weren't worth using at all, like "I joined nine levels too low!" Fiona or "My sister has better starting stats and growths than me!" Lyre? At least half your army in Dark Dragon and the Blade of Light was like that.

[Elephant Parade]

Maybe they were afraid that people would lose a ton of units, and thus wanted to provide backups?

[Tawa]

Well, that's understandable, yeah. But there's just so many of them. You got Wolf and the same-class but objectively-worse Sedgar in the same level; you never got any more bow knights after that. But then, you got eight different Social Knights, and 5 different pegasus knights. Bord and Cord were two out of three fighters, and two of four axe-users. There were 6 different mercenaries and 8 different possible magic-users, but you only got 2 thieves and 2 ballista-ers.

Not that it's bad, of course, it was just sort of bizarre compared to the later games' tradition of having 3 or 4 of each class at most and almost never less than 2.

[USEC_OFFICER]

It's almost as if it's the first game in the series and its mechanics haven't been refined or improved yet, huh? Being on the NES certainly wouldn't help things, but at least they had significantly improved the formula by the third game (seeing as FE:Gaiden was its own little thing). Once you've released the game and gotten feedback from a wider audience I would hope imagine that that'd make future installments less weird.

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The reason that the character's stat growths in FE1 are all factors of 10% is due to the interesting way they got around the limitations of the NES. Generating random numbers was rather intensive, so instead of generating one for each stat and slowing down the game, instead only one was generated. That number was used in a look up a table which would tell it which stats to increase for that result. So for a particular character, a result of three would increase their HP and Weapon Level or whatever. These tables had only ten different slots in them, hence why every growth is a factor of 10%. This also means that a character's stats were related. If they could only get DEF in a slot that had HP, DEF and STR, that means that it's impossible for their DEF to be less than their STR, whereas it's a possiblity if the growths were checked individually. As a side effect this means that it's impossible for a character to get dud levels unless the character's level-up table has any empty slots in it.

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You know, this might make an interesting variation to a FEF game. It should result in a stat distribution similar to the current system but offer slightly more stategy in building your character. Do you spread your points out evenly so that you get a good selection of stats every level, or do you cluster them together and hope for good luck from the RNG? Should you pair up related stats so that you are guaranteed to be hard-hitting and accurate or tanky and fast? Or do you go for different combinations to try and be good at everything barring a string of the same number? Something to think about at least.

[Tawa]

It's almost as if it's the first game in the series and its mechanics haven't been refined or improved yet, huh? Being on the NES certainly wouldn't help things, but at least they had significantly improved the formula by the third game (seeing as FE:Gaiden was its own little thing). Once you've released the game and gotten feedback from a wider audience I would hope imagine that that'd make future installments less weird.

Thank you for the sarcasm. >:I (although, admittedly, my post was a bit unnecessarily antagonistic)

I'm well aware that the first game wasn't as refined as the later games, and I don't blame them for it. I simply find it kind of amusing to look at how far the series has come since then and how weird the first game is in hindsight.

[USEC_OFFICER]

Oh yeah. It's definitely interesting to see how far games have come since their first installment. I completely agree with you there. _{And I didn't think that I was that sarcastic, was I?}

[Drakale]

I have sour memories of awakening due to the "ennemies spawn from this random edge of the map and immediately act, say goodbye to your healer hahaha". Made the hardcore mode kind of a pain, reloading from the start because of no fault of your own is not a fun mechanic.

[Twinwolf]

Fire Emblem Fates is now available for pre-loading from the Nintendo E-Shop, if anyone's interested.