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[Stench Guzman]

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[Il Palazzo]

There's this Princess Maker remake/reimagining called Volcano Princess (barf) that's recently released on Steam. I've half my mind made up to give the Chinese my money to be Gendo Ikari again, but the more sensible lobe thinks it's saccharine crap (as in, more than PM2 was).
Anyone here tried it and care to give a quick review? Cringe or based?

[MCreeper]

Recently? It was yesterday! But thanks for reminding me of it, i stumbled on it's page sometime ago then promptly forgot. Looks nice, with the exception of otome guys.

[EuchreJack]

I'm more impressed in over 500 reviews with a 99% approval rating.  I guess the AIs in Bejing are allowed to own video games...

[E. Albright]

Wow, you weren't kidding about it being more saccharine than the original. Just... wow. OTOH, it kinda looks like you have a longer parenting run, which suggests you can send a 5yo out into the wilderness to mug monsters & bandits to earn her keep.

Some aspects of it look more like some of the later PM games, but I'm basing this on reading reviews, seeing screenshots, etc. b/c I only ever played PM2.

[delphonso]

I'm more impressed in over 500 reviews with a 99% approval rating.  I guess the AIs in Bejing are allowed to own video games...

We wish. Paid reviews are just part of the game here.

[Il Palazzo]

Yeah, the Steam reviews are defo suspicious in their upbeat abundance.
Having slept on it, I think I'll pass.

[Il Palazzo]

Having played Pathfinder some, I'm hungry for a mechanically overly-complex power fantasy, but more in the roguelike genre. Something semi-fresh (no Nethacks or Angbands, pls) with way too many stats, classes, and rules to min-max and level up.
I've already played the main staples: ADOM, The Pit, TOME, Caves of Qud, Dungeonmans, Dungeons of Dredmor. Probably a few more I can't recall.
Anyone has managed to dig up some gem recently?

Come to think of it, I'd probably take something from other genres too, if it meets the requirements.

[Micro102]

Having played Pathfinder some, I'm hungry for a mechanically overly-complex power fantasy, but more in the roguelike genre. Something semi-fresh (no Nethacks or Angbands, pls) with way too many stats, classes, and rules to min-max and level up.
I've already played the main staples: ADOM, The Pit, TOME, Caves of Qud, Dungeonmans, Dungeons of Dredmor. Probably a few more I can't recall.
Anyone has managed to dig up some gem recently?

Come to think of it, I'd probably take something from other genres too, if it meets the requirements.

Risk of Rain 2 sounds right up your alley, except how you listed a bunch of turn based games and this is real-time.

Conquest of Elysium (it's up to 5 now) is a turn based strategy roguelike, super complex with lots of starts. (and if you like it and want an even more complex but less roguelike strategy game, try out their other series, Dominions)

Buriedbornes is a free roguelite (that can carry saves over between PC and phone is you want) that has a lot of different characters and rules. Good art too.

And while I don't think is what you described, I demand you try Noita because it's awesome. It's real time but there are plenty of things to perfect and learn, going from dying in the first floor, to nuking the world. If you really want different classes, download a mod.

[Iduno]

Having played Pathfinder some, I'm hungry for a mechanically overly-complex power fantasy, but more in the roguelike genre. Something semi-fresh (no Nethacks or Angbands, pls) with way too many stats, classes, and rules to min-max and level up.
I've already played the main staples: ADOM, The Pit, TOME, Caves of Qud, Dungeonmans, Dungeons of Dredmor. Probably a few more I can't recall.
Anyone has managed to dig up some gem recently?

Come to think of it, I'd probably take something from other genres too, if it meets the requirements.

Gearhead series has a lot going on. It's got mech fighting and customization, as well as human-level fighting and equipment (left and right sides can have different armor and weapons). You can also be a rockstar at human level. The RNG can be swingy early on, though.

[Il Palazzo]

Yeah, played the Gearheads and the Illwinter strategies to death (come on Micro, I'm pretty sure we've been in at least a few Dominions games together).

RoR is more like Nuclear Throne, right? Fast-paced shooter, not a game you spent half the time agonising over what character build will get you the best advantage. Right?

I'll take a look at Buriedbornes, although it seems a bit simple at first glance.

[Micro102]

Yeah, played the Gearheads and the Illwinter strategies to death (come on Micro, I'm pretty sure we've been in at least a few Dominions games together).

I've only played Dominions MP once a long time ago and it was a flaming disaster.

[heydude6]

I guess I’ll have to shill for Cogmind. It’s price is quite steep at $30 bucks, but if you want to play a rogue like with all of the complexity and depth of a classic, without playing a classic itself, then it’s your best bet.

The core premise is that you’re this cluster of rogue nanomachines that were dumped in the basement of an underground space factory. Your goal is to escape, and the way you do that is by dismantling other bots and incorporating their parts into your frail body, eventually becoming a machine that can put up a fight.

The depth of the game comes from the sheer amount of part variety available. You can build a light bot with jets that can fly. A slow well-armoured bot with threads that can fight head to head. You’ve got cannons and lasers, rocket launchers and sledge hammers. Sensors and hackware and EMP weaponry. My list doesn’t remotely do it justice.

The game has a lot of build variety, and part degradation encourages you to constantly be trying new things.

The game is honestly too deep for what I have time to play these days, but there are few rogue-likes these days that will allow you to hack yourself a robot army (albeit it’s very difficult).

[Iduno]

Also, honestly, DoomRl has a lot of depth to it. Different styles of game, different challenges, 3 classes that only determine your bonus and the max level of skills (?). Plus equipment customization.

[Robsoie]

DoomRL has always been lots of fun

Having played Pathfinder some, I'm hungry for a mechanically overly-complex power fantasy, but more in the roguelike genre. Something semi-fresh (no Nethacks or Angbands, pls) with way too many stats, classes, and rules to min-max and level up.
I've already played the main staples: ADOM, The Pit, TOME, Caves of Qud, Dungeonmans, Dungeons of Dredmor. Probably a few more I can't recall.
Anyone has managed to dig up some gem recently?

Come to think of it, I'd probably take something from other genres too, if it meets the requirements.

Apparently there's some roguelike DLC for the 2 Pathfinder game, "Beneath the Stolen Lands" for Kingmaker and "Treasures of Midnight Isles" for Wrath of the Righteous.
No idea if they're worth playing though.