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[FearfulJesuit]

Here's the orders for Fall 1901. I apologize for being past the deadline, but I've been without internet for the last day and a half or so, which I had not foreseen. England did not turn them in on time and I had to go track him down, but we do, finally, have orders for everyone. I must say the orders this turn are rather...unorthodox.

England
A (Yorkshire) to London
F (English Channel) to Belgium
F (North Sea) to Holland BOUNCE

France
F (Mid-Atlantic) holds
A (Burgundy) holds
A (Spain) holds

Germany
F (Denmark) to Sweden BOUNCE
A (Ruhr) to Holland BOUNCE
A (Silesia) to Warsaw BOUNCE

Austria
A (Rumania) to Sevastopol BOUNCE
A (Vienna) supports [A (Tyrolia) to Munich] INVALID MOVE- HOLDS
F (Trieste) holds

Italy
A (Rome) to Venice
A (Tyrolia) supports [A (Rome) to Venice]
F (Aegean- I assume you mean Ionian) to Greece

Russia
F (Black Sea) to Sevastopol BOUNCE
F (Gulf of Bothnia) to Sweden BOUNCE
A (St. Petersburg) to Norway
A (Warsaw) holds

Turkey
A (Armenia) to Sevastopol BOUNCE
F (Ankara) to Constantinople BOUNCE
A (Bulgaria) to Constantinople BOUNCE

Map of orders:

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Map of new positions for 1901-1902 (no retreats were necessary):

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This means everyone gets exactly one build. Message me what you want to build and where (remember, you can only build in your home centers that you had at the start of the game) by 8 AM GMT December 29th.

[GreatWyrmGold]

So much bouncing...

[ansontan2000]

What is France doing?

[Bdthemag]

What is France doing?

What do you mean by that?

[USEC_OFFICER]

What is France doing?

Holding, obviously.

[ansontan2000]

What is France doing?

What do you mean by that?

I mean...You could easily have taken Portugal as well with your fleet in the Mid-Atlantic, giving yourself an extra build?

[Bdthemag]

What is France doing?

What do you mean by that?

I mean...You could easily have taken Portugal as well with your fleet in the Mid-Atlantic, giving yourself an extra build?

Good point! Along with me being new, there are reasons why I didn't want to risk moving my fleet out of the MAO that may or may not be reasonable.

[FearfulJesuit]

Wee! That was fast, folks, thank you. (Austria never sent in, but Austria doesn't have a choice, there's only one option for his build.)

England
Build F (Liverpool)

France
Build F (Brest)

Germany
Build F (Berlin)

Austria
Build A (Budapest)

Italy
Build F (Rome)

Russia
Build A (Sevastopol)

Turkey
Build F (Constantinople)

...and the resulting map for Spring 1902:

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Orders for Spring 1902 will be due in 48 hours at 3 AM GMT the 31st of December 2013.

As for

What is France doing?

What do you mean by that?

I mean...You could easily have taken Portugal as well with your fleet in the Mid-Atlantic, giving yourself an extra build?

Good point! Along with me being new, there are reasons why I didn't want to risk moving my fleet out of the MAO that may or may not be reasonable.

Yeah, if I were France I'd definitely have gone for Portugal and certainly tried to keep Germany and England out of Belgium. I assume in the war-rooms people worked out some bizarre pact that everyone gets one build this turn. No treaty like that is going to last very long.

[GreatWyrmGold]

That was remarkable.

[Bdthemag]

Well fuck then.

[Akroma]

Oh damn, how could I miss this?


Having run about half a dozen Diplomacy games on bay12, I know how much of a pain it is when players drop out.

I'll volunteer for a waiting list in case someone drops out, even if it's a mostly lost cause.

Fancying myself as a spreader of the hobby and seasoned mentor of the game, I'll also gladly stand by for advice via PM.

edit: except for that Austria, not even I can turn that around.

[GreatWyrmGold]

edit: except for that Austria, not even I can turn that around.

Oh? Is it really that bad?

[Akroma]

it is bad etiquette to openly discuss games as they are ongoing, an analysis from an outsider might unveil plans that a player is not seeing, and would not have seen if not for the analysis, or vice versa, a miosinterpretation of the board could still be used in an arguement.




however, to hell with etiquette, I'd say turkey has highest chances of winning the game right now, assuming that italy doesn't get it's shit together. Right now, either Italy is a brilliant player, who has manufactured the board as it stands and will take amazing advantage of it, or has made a common beginner mistake, not knowing what the hell.


Whomever wins, he'll likely be one of the three nations with current access to the mediterran, and france only by sheer courtesy of england and germany. England, Germany and Russia seemingly went in without much forethought. Neither holds an actual advantage, so whatever is happening there, it will take LONG, but this game, even more than it is about deception, is about speed.


That's why I love playing germany. It may seem like a really disadvantageous position, but germany pulls all the levers. If done right, germany should always end the first year with 3 builds. 2 builds is only a compromise for those without confidence.

[GreatWyrmGold]

That's why I love playing germany. It may seem like a really disadvantageous position, but germany pulls all the levers. If done right, germany should always end the first year with 3 builds. 2 builds is only a compromise for those without confidence.

_{Or those who got bounced a bunch.}

[Akroma]

yeah, but bouncing means that your fellow players did something you have not agreed on with them (unless you literaly agreed on it), which already means you are in for a world of hurt. As germany, you have great cards, but you need to deal them well. If anyone dares to bounce you, you better saw that coming and already made plans with the neighbours to take that fool down.