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[tryrar]

Speaking of trade, of Torkal were to front the materials would I be able to construct a trade dock on the river next to their city?

Edit: also, if I were to say, trade glass items for raw materials, how much would I get per item?

[Ukrainian Ranger]

I must note that trade with the kingdom means bad relationships with Whala

[10ebbor10]

Speaking of trade, of Torkal were to front the materials would I be able to construct a trade dock on the river next to their city?

A low quality dock (no food production) but yes.

[evilcherry]

finger crossed for UPDATE!

[tryrar]

bump?

[10ebbor10]

tomorrow probably.

[10ebbor10]

And so, with a small half hour remaining, an update has been posted. Not as good as what I wanted, sadly, but it'll have to do.

[Terenos]

Soooo at what point am I going to get an idea about what it'll cost to expand my irrigation system?

Also, we can do large projects like a great barracks without innovation? Good to know.

[10ebbor10]

Spoiler: Guideline for production (click to show/hide)

Basic Unit: 5 production
Small scale project, Advanced unit: 10 production
Mid scale project : 20 production
Large Scale project: 40 production
Awesome project: 100 production

Your project would either be midscale, or large, depending on the wanted effects.

And yes, you can do quite a lot as long as you have an ingame reason/ corresponding ideas, and willing to know that it won't be as good as an invention building.

[tryrar]

I take it from my stat sheet that if you have a building providing trade goods, a trade route provides production right?

[10ebbor10]

Or science points, or food.  Truly trade routes do everything, but they're oft unreliable.  (Dicerolls)

[tryrar]

One more thing regarding production, would it cost half to upgrade an existing unit to an invention unit, rather than the full 10?(As long as it made sense, of course!) For example, if I brought the new war cog I'm producing into dock and added some catapaults, would that only be 5 production?

Also, what would it cost to bring my existing catapult unit up to spec?

[10ebbor10]

Point is, the catapult is a separate unit. Ie, you have your standard cog, and then the catapult is loaded on top. So it would cost 5 to build the war cog, and 5 to build the catapult.

Current catapult unit can't really be brought up too spec, due to integrated design.

[tryrar]

ah. I get it now. Welp, that sucks, so I have to ask: Would I get production back from recycling the catapult cog to build a standard cog?

[10ebbor10]

One time only, I suppose. Full production refund.