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[Rolan7]

I'm not sure what to make of the latest couple of updates.  The tragedy is fine, but there isn't any progress for Minmax/Forgath/Kin.  The goblin characters got plenty of satisfying character growth, both individually and as a group (Dies and Fox too, to an extent).  I don't think Forgath has developed much at all beyond becoming somewhat indecisive about monster killing.  Remember that Forgath wanted to work with Dellyn to hunt down the Goblins again.  He seems to exist as a witty straight-man: existing mostly to keep the audience laughing (at Minmax).  That said, the character is very entertaining and has a lot of development *forshadowed*, so I'm not complaining about Forgath.

I guess I feel like Minmax and Kin's progression was kinda cheesy and predictable, and now it's probably all reversed.  Maybe that's a good thing, actually, in that the tired interspecies romance cliche could be subverted.  Like someone else said, Kin might become their enemy now... yeah, that could send both their characters into more interesting places.

I take it back, this comic is great.

[Xantalos]

Still, reading it for the first time it felt rather forced.

[Remuthra]

Updoot.

[Xantalos]

Indeed. It's still super dooper tragedy stuff maaaaan.

[Remuthra]

If you bang your head against a mirror, it's probably technically a self-headbutt.

[Jimmy]

Art's getting better. The last two panels are pretty good. Definitely not improving quickly though.

[LordBucket]

Latest update is really a downer. I've stomached everything up until now, though admittedly I've skipped through a lot of the "10 pages that can summarized as 'they fought.'" But this...meh. I've been enjoyed that party far more than the goblin party. Don't really like any of the goblin characters. Basically they've just erased all the development between those two that's happened since the beginning of the comic. This is a reset button for the part of the comic I enjoyed.

Not enthusiastic about that.

[Xantalos]

Indeed. It feels ... artificial.
Ah well, at least we'll see Kore again soon.

[kaian-a-coel]

I agree. It feels artificial, and a reset button rendering the last MONTHS (IRL) of comic basically nonexistent.

Everything that happened since, well, Brassmoor city, has been nullified for these characters.

It feels like treason.

[Xantalos]

Hence the super tragic nature of the title.

[LordBucket]

Hence the super tragic nature of the title.

Every other time something fell into oblivion, characters lost all memory of it having ever existed. According to the story, they hadn't ever existed.  When the beard, the backpack, etc fell in...everyone kept going right on as if it had always been that way. But this time, Miinmax kept his memory. Why?

If the author is going to be inconsistent and break his own rules solely for the sake of increasing misery...that's perfectly ok. I just won't read any more.

[GlyphGryph]

What are you talking about? Minmax didn't keep his memory of the necklace. He would have commented on it being missing if he had. As far as has been shown he has no recollection of it at all. Where are you getting that there is some inconsistency there?

[Mephansteras]

I'd have to go back and look at when he carved her name in the necklace, but I does seem to me that they all remember everything else that's happened between them, just not that very important moment.

[Neonivek]

What I find odd is... if they never existed...

Wouldn't he have just got some other necklace of importance? making losing minor objects to oblivion pointless?

Except that clearly isn't the case... Oblivion doesn't "make things to have never existed" it "rewrites everything so the events more or less still occur but without the object being present and without anything to take its place".

Or I guess what I mean is... There is no way losing a minor object to oblivion could ever deprive someone from that object... and conceptually what happened? Was the creation of the object erased or was the materials erased or was the object erased and people's memories were erased with it creating inconsistencies?

In otherwords... Will save

[GlyphGryph]

They'd even remember the moment, just not the item in question, and any memories of the moment would be confusing as heck if they thought about it too much since it would have distinct logical gaps as to why things were happening.

In fact, this was exactly the sort of response Kin was having in her initial freakout - she said she felt the same way, and she didn't understand WHY and it didn't make any sense! Almost as if a piece was missing.

Neonivek -
It's been explicitly explained that oblivion (the oblivion hole type) doesn't make things "never have existed" - it has no power to change the past. It just removes all traces of it from the present, leaving you incredibly confused as to why, for example, you only have one boot. True Oblivion makes it so it would have never existed, and that's what Psimax was eventually aiming for, but he hadn't gotten there yet.