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[flabort]

Thanks for that link.

So, I don't understand what "μS/cm" is (yet), or whether it being higher or lower makes something a better conductor or worse; but we can find out. Molasses, the liquid in question, has 300 μS/cm at 10 degrees Celsius, and 5000 μS/cm at 50 degrees Celsius. Water (distilled; I think that means as pure as possible) apparently has .04, and I know electrolytes (suspended particles, or something) make it more conductive. New York City Water, according to your chart, has 72 μS/cm, and has sufficient suspended particles to call it more conductive. Sodium Chloride, or table salt, is definitively conductive in a solution of water. The lowest recorded concentration has 67,200 μS/cm; Far more than city water, or even molasses. It then goes up to 215,000 μS/cm.

So, what I'm seeing so far is that Molasses may not be conductive enough to kill, but is more conductive than water.

Not satisfied, I then googled "μS/cm", and wound up at wikipedia, the "Conductivity (electrolytic)" page. I learned that S/m is siemens per meter, and came to the simple/obvious conclusion that "μS/cm" is related to S/m. Multiply X μS/cm by a hundred to get μS/m... but what is μ? It helpfully tells me that 1,000,000 μS/cm = 1,000 mS/cm = 1 S/cm, meaning... that I did a very unnecessary calculation. However, I really want to compare copper to our liquids, and the only measurement I can find for copper is resistance, in nanoohm-meters. Finally, I find p=1/o, or roughly something like that, and it tells me that converts from ohm-meters to S/m; so all I have to do is find that copper is... 0.00000001678 ohm-meters, or... 5,9590,000 S/m; or 595,900,000,000 μS/cm.

In other words, copper has 5.959 x 10¹¹ μS/cm, far more than water, molasses, etc., Proving that a higher value means more conductive, which any real scientist worth his NaCl would have known already. It also shows that copper is far superior to salt water as a conductor, salt water is superior to molasses, and molasses is superior to tap water.

Which means it's probably up in the air still as to whether electrified molasses is lethal.
and wow 10 posts while I was researching and typing that eep

[Elephant Parade]

This derail is getting ridiculous. It'll be hilarious if the electric crossbow guy doesn't even get to shoot the river.

[TCM]

"'Bash my brains out extra'? Your syntax leaves much to be desired! Go away before I thrash you!"
((It doesn't matter to CZA really, he's just angry about everyone converging on him.))

((Again, redneck/jock hybrid.))
"Shut up and die! And turn into loot that I can use without having to strain my back!"

"I don't like you!"

Thanks for that link.

So, I don't understand what "μS/cm" is (yet), or whether it being higher or lower makes something a better conductor or worse; but we can find out. Molasses, the liquid in question, has 300 μS/cm at 10 degrees Celsius, and 5000 μS/cm at 50 degrees Celsius. Water (distilled; I think that means as pure as possible) apparently has .04, and I know electrolytes (suspended particles, or something) make it more conductive. New York City Water, according to your chart, has 72 μS/cm, and has sufficient suspended particles to call it more conductive. Sodium Chloride, or table salt, is definitively conductive in a solution of water. The lowest recorded concentration has 67,200 μS/cm; Far more than city water, or even molasses. It then goes up to 215,000 μS/cm.

So, what I'm seeing so far is that Molasses may not be conductive enough to kill, but is more conductive than water.

Not satisfied, I then googled "μS/cm", and wound up at wikipedia, the "Conductivity (electrolytic)" page. I learned that S/m is siemens per meter, and came to the simple/obvious conclusion that "μS/cm" is related to S/m. Multiply X μS/cm by a hundred to get μS/m... but what is μ? It helpfully tells me that 1,000,000 μS/cm = 1,000 mS/cm = 1 S/cm, meaning... that I did a very unnecessary calculation. However, I really want to compare copper to our liquids, and the only measurement I can find for copper is resistance, in nanoohm-meters. Finally, I find p=1/o, or roughly something like that, and it tells me that converts from ohm-meters to S/m; so all I have to do is find that copper is... 0.00000001678 ohm-meters, or... 5,9590,000 S/m; or 595,900,000,000 μS/cm.

In other words, copper has 5.959 x 10¹¹ μS/cm, far more than water, molasses, etc., Proving that a higher value means more conductive, which any real scientist worth his NaCl would have known already. It also shows that copper is far superior to salt water as a conductor, salt water is superior to molasses, and molasses is superior to tap water.

Which means it's probably up in the air still as to whether electrified molasses is lethal.
and wow 10 posts while I was researching and typing that eep

((It would have been way easier just to look up actual tests of electric crossbows firing into rivers of molasses.))

[flabort]

Yes, well, I like to look at things from the most obtuse angle I can find, and go about it in a roundabout semiscientific matter.

[GreatWyrmGold]

((I doubt it. That's pretty specific.))

"I don't care, I'm going to kill you! ...Once I get over there, this mace is heavy!"

[TCM]

"I don't care, I'm going to kill you! ...Once I get over there, this mace is heavy!"

"Do you ever wonder why we have ample opportunity to talk while we try to murder each other? As if some great being controls the universe and determines when we take action, and dialogue makes up the filler space in between these actions? I'm assuming that you don't, because you are an inbred simpleton."

[GreatWyrmGold]

"Or because I don't think about stupid stuff, about how we're just shadows on a cave wall or some shit. That's more the preview of philosophy. I'm more focused on practical problems, like bashing your head in!"

[Elephant Parade]

"I don't care, I'm going to kill you! ...Once I get over there, this mace is heavy!"

"Do you ever wonder why we have ample opportunity to talk while we try to murder each other? As if some great being controls the universe and determines when we take action, and dialogue makes up the filler space in between these actions? I'm assuming that you don't, because you are an inbred simpleton."

"Or because I don't think about stupid stuff, about how we're just shadows on a cave wall or some shit. That's more the preview of philosophy. I'm more focused on practical problems, like bashing your head in!"

"Gentlemen, all this arguing is hurting my ears. End the noise and settle this the old-fashioned way, or stop the debates and kill other people.

[dewboy]

Which means it's probably up in the air still as to whether electrified molasses is lethal.

Do I hear some !SCIENCE! about to happen?
(oh and I've learned more in the last 10 hours in this thread than I would in 3 days of school. Sorry about the derail)

[Urist Mc Dwarf]

I like how everyone is fine and then there's Alena.

[Greenstarfanatic]

I like how everyone is fine and then there's Alena.

"MY GOSH DARN ARM IS GONE, HOW IN HECK DO YOU THINK I'D BE FINE!?"

[Supermichael777]

I think people are misinterpreting distilled water and tap water in their basis for conductivity. pure water is an insulator while tap water, which contains trace salts and other chemicals added to improve the taste and to help sterilize the pipes like fluorides, is mildly conductive when compared to something like wood. Water is dangerous not because it itself is conductive but because it increases the conductivity through the layers of dead skin. the insides of the human body are more conductive then the skin (dry or wet) or air. so electricity would conduct through the path with the least total resistance. which when wet or standing in water is through the body. this is mostly due to humans being a big bag of salt water. however this is kind of made irrelevant when the thing shocking you is an arrow to the gut.

edit: excluding magic the lightning will just ground in the riverbed instead of murdering the whole river. however it is magic murder lightning

[Wwolin]

I think people are misinterpreting distilled water and tap water in their basis for conductivity. pure water is an insulator while tap water, which contains trace salts and other chemicals added to improve the taste and to help sterilize the pipes like fluorides, is mildly conductive when compared to something like wood. Water is dangerous not because it itself is conductive but because it increases the conductivity through the layers of dead skin. the insides of the human body are more conductive then the skin (dry or wet) or air. so electricity would conduct through the path with the least total resistance. which when wet or standing in water is through the body. this is mostly due to humans being a big bag of salt water. however this is kind of made irrelevant when the thing shocking you is an arrow to the gut.

edit: excluding magic the lightning will just ground in the riverbed instead of murdering the whole river. however it is magic murder lightning

We have a winner! Provided that the arrow doesn't hit CZA or land right next to him, he'll be fine! Anyways, I just got my wisdom teeth yanked today (all four of them at once, as well as a readjustment of the molar that they had displaced), so don't expect a turn today or tomorrow. Maybe Wednesday, but it all depends on how quickly I heal up.

[+!!scientist!!+]

If your on as many pain killers as I was when I got my wisdom teeth pulled, then I wouldn't expect much of anything from you for a couple weeks. (I was put on oxycodone, and that entire month is one giant blur in my memory)

Also, You guys have successfully gotten me addicted to worm. Congratulations, you bastards.

[LeoLeonardoIII]

Had my wisdom teeth out as an adult, all four, only local anesthetic. It was weird to smell the burnt tooth dust as the dentist drilled them apart. But he only had to do that to two of them; the other two just pulled right out. Felt like breaking wet bark. Sure my mouth hurt for a couple weeks, but it was really only that bad for the first couple days.

Gave me itty bitty percocet which I didn't even use until I had to stop taking 800mg anti-inflammatory because it was hurting my stomach too much.

I was fine with being conscious for a guy breaking my teeth apart and yanking them out of my head, but the tylenol gave me an upset tummy!