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Best ship?

AngelxAlistair (Toy ship ahoy!)
- 2 (8.7%)
RichardxCyrielle (Yes, she's a side character. No, that does not make this any less cute.)
- 0 (0%)
MariaxSelinaxYurixNuriel (HAREM)
- 5 (21.7%)
RichardxCamille (The only couple who knew each other for longer than two months. Woo~)
- 1 (4.3%)
AshleyxConnyxNurielxBismuth (OPPOSING HAREM)
- 1 (4.3%)
LylexEveryone (An Uke and five Semes. Go figure.)
- 2 (8.7%)
AlistairxCatherine (Minako, eat your heart out.)
- 0 (0%)
MariaxSelina (The original, accept no substitutes.)
- 1 (4.3%)
LyleXRichard (Too much yuri, not enough yaoi.)
- 1 (4.3%)
IzzyxLucas (Because a normal tsundere is not enough.)
- 1 (4.3%)
WillxStella (*insert witty tagline here*)
- 2 (8.7%)
MariexEveryone (Marie, duh.)
- 2 (8.7%)
AshleyXRichard (Screw retcons, I want my OTP now!)
- 1 (4.3%)
MariaxMattxSelina (The original OT3. And who was Matt again?)
- 2 (8.7%)
Richard/CyriellexFourth Wall (Who didn't see this coming?)
- 2 (8.7%)

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Author Topic: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE  (Read 1012409 times)

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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #15135 on: June 03, 2014, 06:37:25 pm »

You misspelled stupid.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #15136 on: June 03, 2014, 07:07:16 pm »

So ICARUS is the Angel from Borderlands?

HILDA may be part of a void entity, but the fragment of that void entity was tasked with running a simulation of a person that died. Creation infested the fragment, making it so that the simulation continued despite Belkelel's efforts to retrieve the fragment.
HILDA can technomance, but only technomance herself--but she can do a lot with herself, like shapeshift her body and transfer power to different parts (hence how she can move her stats around). Her shapeshifting isn't as complex as Bartimaeus's, as it is centered around her core and conservation of mass plays a role unlike Bartimaeus. She also can't shapeshift into different materials like he can. She can shapeshift into things like metalloids so that her electronics can function, but yeah. She uses her magic to fly (but she can also turn herself into a nuclear reaction, thus going way faster.).
What HILDA can do, is with some time, technomance an entirely new AI and allow it to take control of her body. Same with parts that she detaches from herself--she can put an AI into the separate part. Her body pretty much runs on mostly electricity and void magic, being able to convert void magic to electricity.

I just came up with a weapon idea.
What if you could shoot lightning at shit by creating a huge potential difference in charges with void magic?

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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #15137 on: June 03, 2014, 07:09:40 pm »

I'm pretty sure HILDA can shift her stays around and fly more than thirty feet high.
Plus HILDA doesn't need to charge, as she siphons void magic. Maybe rarely.
And plus she can't be repaired by normal means, at least not actually replacing her hull.
As for everything else, that should be fine. HILDA runs on electricity as well as void magic.

HILDA would not only be damaged by electricity but also antivoid.
The first couple of points are issues from cost.
If people are willing to let HILDA go over the disadvantage cap, I can fiddle with things until they work to PrivateNomad's pleasure. Any opposition?

what does DR: [number] mean`
DR is short for Damage Resistance. It's basically armor. The number is the number of points of damage negated, but since damage, armor, and such work differently in this system than GURPS, it needs fiddling.

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as for Selina, does she really need to be nerfed *that* bad? As it stands, she is barely capable of doing..anything.
She never was a combat character. And she's still capable of doing lots of stuff. In fact, given how little she has been using her ability lately, I'd say it wouldn't affect anything except preventing her from making magical items.

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as for HILDA, there's a bit of a lore break here, she is not, infact, an AI. Technicaly, she is a part of a void entity that is used to animate golems and machinery, that got *corrupted* by creation. There is no such thing as an actual computer that is controling her robotic body. It contains a fist-sized core that can not be changed, and the rest of her body is more or less terminator 2 style alloy stuff. The whole robot theme is more of an identity crisis. Though it does also mean her reaction time is not perfect.
She still acts as an AI, as far as I was aware.
Was.

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Which btw gives me an idea for the flaw you were asking for - void creatures are vulnerable to creation magic. Though considering that would mean all magic that is not void magic, that might be a WAY more harmfull flaw than what is still needed. I guess limiting it to specific anti-void measures would be better. Anti-void fields would not immediatly desintegrate her, but may fuck up with her senses, maybe give some debuffs etc.
Noted.

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Also, similarly to ICARUS that too, is less of an AI and more of a modern day spirit that posesses computers, hacking is really not the trouble. Remember how it was a large character arc that ICARUS discovered she could actually ignore the -hardcored- prime directives. Whatever programming is going on on the body Icarus is in, her presence in it overrides it.
Odd. And not something I was aware of.

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the actual problem would be, though nobody ever tried that, an excorcism. If actually driven out of a sufficently advanced computer to sustain her, Icarus would probably not live long. Of course, excorcisms are time-intensive things, and considering Icarus appearance and lack of actual data on what is going on (with her being the first (I guess?) of her kind), an excorcism may be a bit counter intuitive. It may be a bit more intuitive for HILDA, as unlike Icarus, she gives of a clear void presence. The TN would probably still be rather high.
Noted. There's probably something to simulate that.

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edit: I forgot to mention, but what happens to HILDA having 4 standard forms to switch inbetween?
What's the difference between the forms? Is it comparable to the differences between ICARUS's chassises?

Why does magic work like that?
Like what?

You misspelled stupid.
A ha ha. Grow up.

(but she can also turn herself into a nuclear reaction, thus going way faster.).
That doesn't sound safe for anyone involved...

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What HILDA can do, is with some time, technomance an entirely new AI and allow it to take control of her body. Same with parts that she detaches from herself--she can put an AI into the separate part.
How, exactly, does this work? Could AIs made some other way also be used to control her body?
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #15138 on: June 03, 2014, 07:16:21 pm »

Why do you roll a die equal to your magic stat for magic? That means no one can use all of their abilities without sinking most of their points into magic. And that's not considering mana cost.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #15139 on: June 03, 2014, 07:17:12 pm »

Well... I guess that works out... Atleast she can still attack things like Golem's if it comes down to it.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #15140 on: June 03, 2014, 07:22:00 pm »

Why do you roll a die equal to your magic stat for magic? That means no one can use all of their abilities without sinking most of their points into magic. And that's not considering mana cost.
...Why? Target Numbers are like 3-9 for most magic, and we divide 100 points between nine stats. Sure, making big effects without drawbacks is tough for people who aren't specialized mages, but...what's wrong with that?

Well... I guess that works out... Atleast she can still attack things like Golem's if it comes down to it.
Or wild animals. Or anything else that doesn't qualify as an "intelligent creature". And you can take and encourage nonviolent action.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #15141 on: June 03, 2014, 07:25:30 pm »

Basically HILDA technomances a computer chip and formulates an AI inside of it. It takes a lot of time, but she can do it. She could also shapeshift something like a USB port into her and allow an AI to control her body, but her core and actual conscious will still be there, just not really active. Hell, ICARUS could probably use HILDA's body if she wanted too.

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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #15142 on: June 03, 2014, 07:27:55 pm »

Hm. Tricky.

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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #15143 on: June 03, 2014, 07:28:28 pm »

ISN'T THE ENTIRE POINT OF THIS GAME PLAYING AS MAGIC PEOPLE?

I will point out that was a flaw in Thawed.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #15144 on: June 03, 2014, 07:29:57 pm »

Oh, and HILDA can shift her stats around, but when the new system is in place she wouldn't be able to shift her health or mana stat.

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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #15145 on: June 03, 2014, 07:31:14 pm »

ISN'T THE ENTIRE POINT OF THIS GAME PLAYING AS MAGIC PEOPLE?

I will point out that was a flaw in Thawed.
Reread my post.
You only need a high Magic stat if you want to consistently cast major magic without any drawbacks. I dunno about you, but that sounds like something you should need a high Magic stat to do.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #15146 on: June 03, 2014, 07:32:40 pm »

ISN'T THE ENTIRE POINT OF THIS GAME PLAYING AS MAGIC PEOPLE?

I will point out that was a flaw in Thawed.
Reread my post.
You only need a high Magic stat if you want to consistently cast major magic without any drawbacks. I dunno about you, but that sounds like something you should need a high Magic stat to do.

Kinda agreed here
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #15147 on: June 03, 2014, 07:33:15 pm »

ISN'T THE ENTIRE POINT OF THIS GAME PLAYING AS MAGIC PEOPLE?

I will point out that was a flaw in Thawed.
Reread my post.
You only need a high Magic stat if you want to consistently cast major magic without any drawbacks. I dunno about you, but that sounds like something you should need a high Magic stat to do.
Huh. For once I actually agree with you, GWG.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #15148 on: June 03, 2014, 07:36:17 pm »

Same. Amazing.

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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v2 OOC: MOAR LAMPSHADES PLEASE
« Reply #15149 on: June 03, 2014, 08:38:17 pm »

Why is everyone always surprised whenever anyone agrees with me?
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