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ShadowHammer

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My military is exceptionally talented...
« on: July 11, 2013, 05:24:57 pm »


How does one rest while training? Was he sleep walking, and then he walked into the barracks and was like "snore snore stab"?

But seriously, what is happening?
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Re: My military is exceptionally talented...
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2013, 05:29:20 pm »

Extreme dreaming!

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Re: My military is exceptionally talented...
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2013, 05:34:10 pm »

He's the Chosen One, and they are uploading combat skills directly into his mind.
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Re: My military is exceptionally talented...
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2013, 05:40:50 pm »

I've seen this happen when a dwarf with low endurance engaged in an individual combat drill and got exhausted. They just 'rest' for a bit to recover and then continue with their drill. The one case where it happened regularly was with a marksdwarf who had no melee skills and presumably trained dodging when doing Individual Combat Drill. I've no idea if it's dodging training that's particularly taxing or if it's just a problem with flimsy military dwarfs.
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Re: My military is exceptionally talented...
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2013, 06:28:02 pm »

I've seen it after sparring sessions, though I couldn't tell you if the dwarves were unarmed at the time and therefore more likely to be doing the more tiring wrestling moves.
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Re: My military is exceptionally talented...
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2013, 10:00:54 pm »

I've seen this happen when a dwarf with low endurance engaged in an individual combat drill and got exhausted. They just 'rest' for a bit to recover and then continue with their drill. The one case where it happened regularly was with a marksdwarf who had no melee skills and presumably trained dodging when doing Individual Combat Drill. I've no idea if it's dodging training that's particularly taxing or if it's just a problem with flimsy military dwarfs.
This is probably it, since the dwarf is fat and tires very quickly.
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Re: My military is exceptionally talented...
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2013, 02:12:05 am »

I've seen a recruit who passed out from exhaustion during sparring. I sent him into super-soldier program to become Captain Armok (i.e. pump operating gym).
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2013, 06:43:47 am »

Would throwing them in a swimming pool raise their endurance any faster? Assuming they didn't need the strength.
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2013, 06:50:27 am »

Swimming training would work, but it would be slow. Make a dwarf operate pump for a half year and he will be nigh-maxed in every physical attribute.
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2013, 08:52:35 am »

From personal experience, I can tell you that I once did pushups for 45 minutes.  While asleep.

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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2013, 10:48:35 pm »

Make a dwarf operate pump for a half year and he will be nigh-maxed in every physical attribute.

Think I'm gonna test this out :) (I believe you, I just mean I'm gonna do it)
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Re: My military is exceptionally talented...
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2013, 11:45:47 pm »

Make a dwarf operate pump for a half year and he will be nigh-maxed in every physical attribute.

Think I'm gonna test this out :) (I believe you, I just mean I'm gonna do it)

I think that was nerfed/fixed via recent versions... So i doubt it actually still works now, Good luck though.
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Re: My military is exceptionally talented...
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2013, 12:18:47 am »

Make a dwarf operate pump for a half year and he will be nigh-maxed in every physical attribute.

Think I'm gonna test this out :) (I believe you, I just mean I'm gonna do it)

I think that was nerfed/fixed via recent versions... So i doubt it actually still works now, Good luck though.

I'll look it up. Thanks for telling me so I didn't sit there for four (game) years wondering why it's not working heheh.
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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2013, 02:32:26 am »

Yes, pump operating only seems to train endurance now (i think it's endurance - got a dwarf from 'tires very quickly' to 'tires slowly' just by pumping air; other attributes stayed the same for years), which isn't particularly valuable. The combat-relevant attributes strength, agility, toughness and willpower are best trained by combat/sparring.

Endurance training _does_ enable dwarfs to do strenous work longer without becoming 'exhausted', which in peace times seems to be limited to military training and - pump operating (dwarf cancels operate pump: too exhausted).
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