Lenglon:
Toaster: no, I'm saying that he's twisting my words, quotemining, and trying to repeatedly change the context of the discussion. You also appear to have ignored This post and This one, completely.
Getting interrupted here- haven't read this post or beyond yet. May be more to add to priors as well.
But he's not changing the context of the discussion- he's bringing up a
very valid point. You say his interpretation of the puzzle is wrong, but you
still have not provided an alternative. Why?
On the two posts you mention:
This one appears to be a list of minor quibbles you're throwing at his case to undermine it. In order:
The Black Swan's role power is dependent on their similarity. Why is it odd that they may have hairpins of each other's color?
I think there's a pretty clear lack of colors in the Jim trio- their connection is more of protection. In retrospect, it almost seems like they were there to protect US from JIM, instead of the other way around.
The odds of such a seven-way survival is extremely slim. Plus, we would have a clue from either claims (which should be out there at that point, being LYLO) or NQT's flip.
Most of the rest I'd call irrelevant- if it's not here, it's irrelevant.
Jim took the Sleeping God role to a literal extreme.
I'm calling out ZU's protect here because it's extra irrelevant. Who cares how it works?
What about Tiruin's everything? She can't tell us anything apparently, so speculation can only get us so far.
That next-to-last large paragraph really hits at the crux of the problem with you right now- you're attacking Leaf's puzzle any way you can without providing any alternative whatsoever.
As for the other...
Well, considering that I agree with Leaf's interpretation of the puzzle (the puzzle we know exists), and said puzzle clearly marks you as the last scum, there's really not much more I can add to that.
so the only reason is that you like leaf's solution? and you are voting me for none of the reasons referenced in your vote post? and you aren't even willing to try to do any reasearch or look for an answer yourself. woo! best confirmed townie play ever!
You're strawmanning me again. The reasons I stated support the "Lenglon is scum" idea. This is twice you've tried to pick out one point and make it the entirety of my case- another case of scum behavior on your part.
And I've read back on the three of you trying to look for signs of scum. What leads and ideas I've had that went nowhere I didn't post because, well, they went nowhere. Leaf's solution (plus what I did post) wraps it up nice and neat for me.
seriously toaster, SPEAK FOR YOURSELF. if you agree with leaf, then say it yourself. I will not have anything to do with someone who pulls that kind of trick on a regular basis.
What does this even mean? I have said multiple times that I agree with Leaf. If you want another reason coming from me, you're turning sharply more abrasive as you get pushed into the corner.
As an aside, the Black Swan would
have to fakeclaim since the scum team is- and flips as- the Black Swan's Cohort. If Ottofar had true claimed that rolename, then he'd be instalynched as soon as any other mafioso died.
In any case, Lenglon, I don't want to hear anything more from you that isn't your version of the puzzle or a clear and concise reason why you cannot provide one. Your stubborn avoidance of this point is further condemning you.
Tiruin:
But I've to fully agree with her point on Toaster. He's been...quite flippant with mostly everything in-game.
Bleh. I haven't been strongly invested in playing this game- I might need a Mafia break, to be honest. It's a good read but I've had trouble reading people in it since
day one.
In which I call out Toaster//Leafsnail, specifically the former for...a very bad vote. Toaster: Did you not care to explain your gut read back then despite the everything ZU said? How can one's intuition (or in cruder terms, the gut >_<) conclude a lie from his words back in the day preceding his lynch?
If I had a reason for it, it wouldn't be a gut feeling, now would it? I couldn't begin to give you more detail on that now since said vote was
over a month ago. Quite frankly, at least I put my money where my mouth was and voted, which is more than I can say for
half the players that day- including Lenglon, no less. But hey, her scumbuddy Web wasn't voting either- why vote when the town's already set up mislynch for you? This way they can say they had nothing to do with it.
But yeah, my play's been poor this game- I'm having trouble getting the motivation to do the good deep digging these days.
And I already commented on no lynching:
PPE: No Lynch won't work because Leafsnail has a negative vote. If we had four people with normal votes, it'd be different.