Princess OkamiPrincess Okami
I'd almost forgotten you were playing. Do you have a compelling case on anyone yet?
1. I fear I have no case of my own, though I must admit that the one on you, Princess notquitethere, is rather compelling.
To follow up, what is your wincon?
2. Getting that particular trap out of the way, are you?
even when I deeply distrust someone I still tend to view their actions charitably until given overwhelming reason not to. That might not gel with your own mafia philosophy.
3. Do you think this philosophy is beneficial to your play? Why can't/won't you adopt a more cynical attitude while playing?
1. Compelling in what way? In your own words can you describe what the case against me is? This rather strikes me as a lazy vote in response to being prodded for inactivity.
2. I'm not sure what your point is here. Explain how this is to my benefit if I am scum, with reference to the claim I make to Griffionday below.
3. Cynicism is rank sentimentality: whilst the sentimental ignore all but an insipidly positive, cynics see only the negative. I just try to be fair and I try not to blow up little things bigger than they are and I tend to change my mind when I'm presented with good reason to. Whilst I always lose mafia, I don't think it's because I refuse to willfully misinterpret others in the worst possible light.
Lady GriffiondayFirstly, please stop directly contradicting yourself in the same post, it's rather poor form.
Obviously, if the player isn't scum you won't draw anything of use out of someone.
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Neither: asking people's wincons sometimes brings surprising results. Currently, in the Witch game Tiruin spilled out that she was a third-party and wasn't actually directly interested in hunting that game's equivelant of scum.
Okay, in the first statement, I should have said 'not town' rather than 'scum'.
The fact that you didn't let it drop, but instead said "my bad, let me rephrase that" feels like a cover-up.
Sorry, the fact that I admitted my wrongdoing and did what I should have done in the first place is a cover-up? What should I have done? Say, "Well there was a question I was going to ask you, but you know, never mind"?
On that note why are you so focused on playing better now? If you're not feeling pressure from me why does my vote and discussion seem to have kicked you back into playing better? Or are you merely trying to take advantage of the fact that Bay12 Mafia seems to primarily vote for whoever is playing the worst the first day, rather than who's been the scummiest?
An interesting supposition but it's plain to see why I would be focused on trying to play better. I make no secret of the fact that
I always lose. Not 'often lose' or 'usually lose', but with mafia (ignoring one non-mafia Revolution game), I have a 100% lose record over about a dozen games. Understandably, I'm interested in playing better.
Let's test this theory: What is your win condition?
I'll have to paraphrase it:
I'm a townie and I win when the prince is threatened no longer. For some indeed, asking my wincon may have been enlightening.
Princess griffinpupNQT: What is the most reliable scumtell?
I missed this because you'd asked me two separate RVS questions at different points in the same post (your only post). I know that you were away for a bit and I'm willing to cut you a bit of slack, but this is ridiculous. The most reliable scumtell is when a player is completely unengaged with the game and is uninterested in scumhunting. Your going through the motions griffinpup, ghosting through. Now we've got an extension I want to see some sign that you've actually read the thread and are interested in rooting out the scum.